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Old 05-07-2014, 04:12 PM
 
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Some people always find a reason to not do something.

8 out of 10 small businesses fail, and there is nothing new about that, but many people still take the chance.
I have always been one to take a chance......I am just saying I would not now.

I am just looking into a new product to market....I am going to wait a few years and see.
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Old 05-07-2014, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Well the lack of job creation can't be blamed on taxes. Bush cut their taxes, and yet, those "job creators" did not create any jobs, although the luxury goods businesses did just fine during the recession. When will people wise up? If you want a business--cater to the wealthy. They are very busy spending when they are not "creating jobs."

Why Some Luxury Brands Thrived in the U.S. Despite the Recession - Luxury Society - Opinions

Recession bypasses market for luxury goods | Business | The Guardian

Economy is in Crisis, Yet Luxury Brands, Tiffany's, LVHM Still Report Sales Growth - Forbes
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Old 05-07-2014, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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Its very difficult to start a new business. My wife and I started one about 10 years. For the first few years we didn't make anything on it. But the last 3-4 years it has done quite well.

The big thing in our favor was that we did not depend on it for our income. Many people that start their own business do. Its a tough way to go but if you can (and thats the operative word) keep at it you may make a go of it.
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Old 05-07-2014, 04:49 PM
 
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Gee, I wonder why businesses were failing in 2008-2011...I wonder if the OP has any idea what was going on during those years.
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Notice how the data was cherry picked from 2008-2011 during the recession and its immediate after effects? Gee, why would a political astroturf group deliberately use old data from a recession (and the beginnings of the recovery from said deep recession) in order to push an ideological agenda?

Pretty obvious junk partisan "research". Which explains why it is in the opinion section rather than in real news, huh?
The data in the study is from 1978-2011. By the way, there are plenty of liberal opinion spin pieces disguised as regular news. I didn't even mention Obama in the OP, and you guys get all defensive.

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Old 05-07-2014, 05:19 PM
 
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The data in the study is from 1978-2011. By the way, there are plenty of liberal opinion spin pieces disguised as regular news. I didn't even mention Obama in the OP, and you guys get all defensive.
The trend in government growth, redevelopment and institutional investors are a result of the same players. There has been increasing consolidation. This has been exponential since the 80's.
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Old 05-07-2014, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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I the money goes to the stock markets.
Most of the money gets slushed into the stock market where actually job creation is only tenuiously connected to the "investment". Mostly it just creates asset bubbles.

If we want to encourage job creation then we need to find a way to encourage people to NOT put the money in the stock market and instead to actually put it into a new small business in the US. That's where Republican talking points always fall down and why trickle down theory doesn't ever really work in the real world or at least only very inefficiently.
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Old 05-07-2014, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Florida
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The trend in government growth, redevelopment and institutional investors are a result of the same players. There has been increasing consolidation. This has been exponential since the 80's.
Actually the government is smaller now than it was in the 1980s, or even the 1960s

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-over...nt-since-1962/

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Old 05-07-2014, 06:29 PM
 
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Not to mention the businesses that are never even started thanks to onerous regs and government meddling in the marketplace.
Henry Ford if alive would probably say **** it, if he had to start up now.
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Old 05-07-2014, 06:32 PM
 
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Actually the government is smaller now than it was in the 1980s, or even the 1060s

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-over...nt-since-1962/
Hard to imagine there was once time where the most interaction people had with government was pretty much the postal service.

Smaller? I call b.s. , how can anyone make such a ridiculous claim with all the new laws that are passed upon us annually?
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Old 05-07-2014, 06:34 PM
 
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Hard to imagine there was once time where the most interaction people had with government was pretty much the postal service.

Smaller? I call b.s. , how can anyone make such a ridiculous claim with all the new laws that are passed upon us annually?
He provided a link, go look.
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