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So you're saying that rural land is being used wisely and its a bad thing to expand into it?
If the people expanding upon that land expect urban level services, then I'd say it's a waste of land. But that's their choice to make. The whole point is to give people options to live based upon their needs.
It's curious how the default argument goes to NYC or Tokyo when discussing public transit and density. Yes, those extreme densities are what fuels two of the largest economies in the world, but that's not the density and economy of most cities in the world. Even transit friendly Europe isn't people stacked on top of each other in mega highrises. They're denser than suburban Dallas, but they aren't central Tokyo.
Suburbia consuming rural land is now considered "being used wisely." I bet rural people wouldn't agree when the suburbs encroach on rural land.
Well of course just like the so called environmentalists who don't want anyone else to move into their beautiful mountain top region. They were their first. It's theirs mentality.
If the people expanding upon that land expect urban level services, then I'd say it's a waste of land. But that's their choice to make. The whole point is to give people options to live based upon their needs.
It's curious how the default argument goes to NYC or Tokyo when discussing public transit and density. Yes, those extreme densities are what fuels two of the largest economies in the world, but that's not the density and economy of most cities in the world. Even transit friendly Europe isn't people stacked on top of each other in mega highrises. They're denser than suburban Dallas, but they aren't central Tokyo.
In Europe isn't it more of a question on the cost of petrol compared to here? Isn't the reason for the default going to NYC because they have the most experience with it covering a wider range of problems?
I have no idea how many miles away from the heart of NYC one lives when it becomes a pain to drive there. I've just heard people who live around the city at times do that. Just didn't know how many do that. Thx, always best to ask the natives.
Well driving into the heart of NYC is a pain in the ass regardless. The vast majority of people who work in NYC and live outside of it commute via railroad. That is why I did when I was working downtown Manhattan a few years ago.
That type of stuff also depends on the hours someone is putting in. My dad worked for a large bank in Manhattan and at quarter end they would get really busy and put in crazy hours (14-16 hour days). When he was doing that the bank would put up a bunch of the employees in Hotels in Manhattan for anywhere from 5-10 days. He retired in 2008, and the crazy hours they had to put in probably ended a good 5 years before that, but its the type of hours that some people in the financial industry might have to put in during very busy times of the year. In that case there might be some people who choose to stay in the city and do the apartment sharing.
So you're saying that rural land is being used wisely and its a bad thing to expand into it?
In some cases it is fine to expand into more areas, however in some cases it is just excessive sprawl that could have been reduced by smarter growth (Atlanta)
Well of course just like the so called environmentalists who don't want anyone else to move into their beautiful mountain top region. They were their first. It's theirs mentality.
Yeah, you tell that to someone who is watching suburban growth consume the rural land around them. I am sure they will have a welcoming response for you.
Yeah, you tell that to someone who is watching suburban growth consume the rural land around them. I am sure they will have a welcoming response for you.
It's not about me. Trying so hard to be right. Again you don't get it.
If individuals dont want suburbs encroaching into rural areas then dont sell the land.
It's not about me. Trying so hard to be right. Again you don't get it.
If individuals dont want suburbs encroaching into rural areas then dont sell the land.
Haha, say that to the person who watches the suburbs encroach around his rural property because their neighbors sold out to the suburbs. The people in rural America are not fans of people in the suburbs.
Haha, say that to the person who watches the suburbs encroach around his rural property because their neighbors sold out to the suburbs. The people in rural America are not fans of people in the suburbs.
Haha why does that matter? rhetorical, it doesn't.
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