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Old 05-15-2014, 02:07 PM
 
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When does the law start to protect people from being fired for nothing more then expressing private opinons on issues that are at variance with your employer? Can we now justify firing people or forcing them to resign becaue the voted for a particular political party, or supported a particlar policy of a politician?

Imagine an employer walking thru his employee parking lot and firing people according to bumper stickers on their cars?
We always could.
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Old 05-15-2014, 06:54 PM
 
Location: On the Group W bench
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When does the law start to protect people from being fired for nothing more then expressing private opinons on issues that are at variance with your employer? Can we now justify firing people or forcing them to resign becaue the voted for a particular political party, or supported a particlar policy of a politician?

Imagine an employer walking thru his employee parking lot and firing people according to bumper stickers on their cars?
At-will employment: It's a conservative thing. Enjoy.
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Old 05-15-2014, 07:24 PM
 
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Bummer. The good-lookin guys are always dumb, it seems.
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Old 05-15-2014, 07:41 PM
 
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Yeah, but the gays are recruiting more and more people. It's rumored they get a free microwave for every 50 people they can recruit into their "army".

It's a CONSPIRACY!!!!!
I just recruited 10 formerly heterosexual men to the other side just this week. Only 40 more and I get that microwave!!! Whoo hooo It's just so easy... We will have our army soon and will take over the world. LOL
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Old 05-15-2014, 11:56 PM
 
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When does the law start to protect people from being fired for nothing more then expressing private opinons on issues that are at variance with your employer? Can we now justify firing people or forcing them to resign becaue the voted for a particular political party, or supported a particlar policy of a politician?

Imagine an employer walking thru his employee parking lot and firing people according to bumper stickers on their cars?
It does appear that many Americans celebrate the firing of individuals for expressing their views, even if those views are expressed off the job.

I think free-speech protections should be expanded to protect employees of private companies. Unfortunately, there's not much support for this.
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Old 05-16-2014, 05:36 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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It does appear that many Americans celebrate the firing of individuals for expressing their views, even if those views are expressed off the job.

I think free-speech protections should be expanded to protect employees of private companies. Unfortunately, there's not much support for this.

Why would you advocate this?

So, if you were a business owner and one of your employees made public comments that would/could impact the success of your business in a negative way, you're OK with not being able to punish that employee?

That's something I'd expect to hear from a liberal, honestly.
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Old 05-16-2014, 01:56 PM
 
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Imagine an employer walking thru his employee parking lot and firing people according to bumper stickers on their cars?
There was a conservative chain email indulging in just that fantasy shortly after Obama's reelection. And it's perfectly legal.
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Old 05-16-2014, 06:39 PM
 
Location: USA
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Private employer, private employee. 1st Amendment does not apply. If the boss saw fit they be canned, then that is their right as a private enterprise. Isn't that what you righties argue for all the time, for business owners to run their business as they see fit?
Nothing more needed to be said after this.
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Old 05-16-2014, 08:59 PM
 
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Why would you advocate this?

So, if you were a business owner and one of your employees made public comments that would/could impact the success of your business in a negative way, you're OK with not being able to punish that employee?

That's something I'd expect to hear from a liberal, honestly.
Well, guess what, I'm both liberal and conservative, depending on the issue. Some of us aren't so simple-minded about complex issues.

And yes, I do think that individual speech should be protected. The employer should have to show evidence that the employee's speech has harmed the business in some way in order to legitimately fire the employee.

It's unbelievable to me that some people think private businesses should own and control everything we say, write, text, or Tweet.
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Old 05-18-2014, 01:56 PM
 
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And yes, I do think that individual speech should be protected. The employer should have to show evidence that the employee's speech has harmed the business in some way in order to legitimately fire the employee.

It's unbelievable to me that some people think private businesses should own and control everything we say, write, text, or Tweet.
I totally agree.
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