Democrats INSIST on protecting public schools. WHY? (retired, states, support)
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People complain non-stop about public education, and yet any time a change is proposed, people start freaking out. Common Core seems dead now, but people were demonizing it without having a clue what it even was. I don't think it was great, but anything is better than the second-rate system we have now.
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Originally Posted by jackmccullough
Well, the reason this Democrat supports public schools is that, like Thomas Jefferson, I believe that universal public education is an essential public good, and an educated populace is vital to the maintenance of a democratic society.
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Indeed, it would. The poster I responded to said scores are improving.
Unchanged is not the same as declining though. Remember, you claimed they were getting worse.
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They are not. They leave the same amount of money those schools would have spent on those students anyway
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Current voucher funding comes directly out of state funding, so does indeed leave less money behind unless it is a federally funded voucher program like the one DC had.
So you are saying no Republican in the South ever supported Jim Crow, or are you simply blaming the party in power at the time.
And if it is the second one, why do you not blame republicans for the failures of our public school system seeing as the Bush brothers are a the biggest reasons for CC and NCLB ?
Nah..the PISA scores back up the NAEP report.
We are declining, not improving in K-12 education and falling behind compared to the rest of the world.
Certain areas are doing poorly. The answer isn't that we should address those certain areas. The answer here is that students are doing poorly so we must..........
It doesn't matter that students aren't doing poorly everywhere.
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Originally Posted by Zimbochick
People complain non-stop about public education, and yet any time a change is proposed, people start freaking out. Common Core seems dead now, but people were demonizing it without having a clue what it even was. I don't think it was great, but anything is better than the second-rate system we have now.
Common Core was attacked on ideological grounds rather than if it worked or not, then it got a boosted because people found outlandish examples of a math problem.
And that was compounded by those on the left saying it should be implemented over a period of 5 o 10 years.
People complain non-stop about public education, and yet any time a change is proposed, people start freaking out. Common Core seems dead now, but people were demonizing it without having a clue what it even was. I don't think it was great, but anything is better than the second-rate system we have now.
Kids in many areas are getting a great education and a one size fits all program brought to you by Washington bureaucrats isn't needed in those areas.
I see many make blanket complaints about the school system but when asked most of them say that they did get a good education.
My response was to a poster who said scores are improving. They clearly are not.
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Current voucher funding comes directly out of state funding, so does indeed leave less money behind
Actually ALL of the money spent per pupil should follow the student to his/her and their family's choice. ALL of the money spent on students who choose to remain in their local school stays with the remaining students. Proportional spending amounts per student remain the same.
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So you are saying no Republican in the South ever supported Jim Crow, or are you simply blaming the party in power at the time.
It is a well-established historical fact that Democrats are the party of Jim Crow, and if you had read the PBS link, you would have seen that
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"The Democratic Party identified itself as the "white man's party" and demonized the Republican Party as being "Negro dominated"
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Originally Posted by dsjj251
why do you not blame republicans for the failures of our public school system seeing as the Bush brothers are a the biggest reasons for CC and NCLB ?
As already explained, NCLB was NOT implemented by public schools as intended or legislated. NCLB requirements do not dictate that students of mixed ability/skills be placed in the same classrooms and taught at the lowest level. Public schools have decided to do that themselves.
As for Common Core, standards were instituted in 2010 and the Obama Admin is pushing it.
It's interesting to watch you defend the Dept of Education.
No. The NAEP predates the DoE by 10 years.
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