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Old 05-12-2014, 03:05 PM
 
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Again, the government didn't do jack cheese, genius. His EMPLOYER punished him for breaking the company/league's code of conduct which the player signed and agreed to as a condition of employment. What is so difficult for you to understand about that?
I posted earlier supporting the NFL for doing that, brainiac.
Try to keep up, kid.

 
Old 05-12-2014, 03:05 PM
 
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A gay person does not have to sleep with anyone to be hated. Telling a gay guy from a straight guy is not all that difficult. Gays have been treated as less than human for centuries. They have been denied their equality, and still don't have it to this day. If you insist on living in 1860, nobody, is stopping you from going back to Africa, and gays are not responsible for slavery. It was your parents who brought you into this world, they are responsible, no one else.
I never said that gays were responsible for slavery. And no one is stopping you from going back to Africa since all races, apparently, come from Africa.

And, yes, my parents did bring me into this world.....a man and a woman did that.
 
Old 05-12-2014, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Most employers consider their works to be slaves and subject to all manner of restrictions and controls. In this country your Bill of Rights ends at the factory door.
 
Old 05-12-2014, 03:05 PM
 
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Sexual orientation is a choice? So you chose to be straight? You chose to be attracted to those of the opposite sex? I'd be curious to explore that.

Before you chose to be attracted solely to women, were you attracted to both men and women, or to neither men or women?

How did you decide your sexuality? Did you make a list of pros and cons for all sexualities? Did you seek the advice of your family and friends? Did you experiment by having sex with both men and women to see which one you liked more?

And once you made your decision, how did you hardwire that decision?

How did you make yourself attracted to women but not attracted to men? If you were initially attracted to both men and women, how did you selectively turn off the attraction to men? If you were initially attracted to neither men or women, how did you selectively turn on the attraction to women? Perhaps you could explain the biological mechanism and how you consciously triggered it.
I have been heterosexual since I entertained women, had sex with women and reproduced with women.

All elements of CHOICE.

I will just let Occam's Razor take care of the rest.
 
Old 05-12-2014, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Then, why is it said to not discriminate against a person for their sexual preferences? I've read this on several pamphlets.
I don't know what pamphlets you have read, but being gay is a sexual orientation, just like being straight is.
 
Old 05-12-2014, 03:06 PM
 
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NFL Player Fined After Posting Negative Tweets about Michael Sam


Well that should seal it. Im done with the NFL now if this is what its come to. A fine and "re-education" for daring to say he thought the kiss was gross?! Really?! ********* NFL and the rest of these loons.

This is un-American insanity. This is the sort of thing I knew would be coming after the gay marriage push. You cant even utter a single thought of a hint of negativity about anything homo or you get punished now. You aren't allowed to feel differently and say something about it now.

I found the kiss gross too. Thank God I dont work for an org. like the NFL that would punish me for daring to say so.
Would the same knee jerk reaction and punishment have ensued if the person kissed had been a fat, unattractive woman... probably not.
 
Old 05-12-2014, 03:06 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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ENOUGH! It is NOT racist or hate to say you find a certain couple kiss. Period. I saw it and I thought it was gross. That does not make me some hater or anyone else a hater. That is not discrimination either.
An employer has the right to penalize an employee for making a comment it deems either prejudiced or inappropiate.

There are rules that I, as an employee, have to honor to satisfy my employer.

It was an expression of hate speech.

Bigots always feel "victimized" when there are consequences to their expressions of hate.
 
Old 05-12-2014, 03:09 PM
 
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I have been heterosexual since I entertained women, had sex with women and reproduced with women.

All elements of CHOICE.
Sure - who you have sex with is a choice. I wasn't asking about your choice in sexual partners. I was asking about your sexual orientation.



I'll try again:

Sexual orientation is a choice? So you chose to be straight? You chose to be attracted to those of the opposite sex? I'd be curious to explore that.

Before you chose to be attracted solely to women, were you attracted to both men and women, or to neither men or women?

How did you decide your sexuality? Did you make a list of pros and cons for all sexualities? Did you seek the advice of your family and friends? Did you experiment by having sex with both men and women to see which one you liked more?

And once you made your decision, how did you hardwire that decision?

How did you make yourself attracted to women but not attracted to men? If you were initially attracted to both men and women, how did you selectively turn off the attraction to men? If you were initially attracted to neither men or women, how did you selectively turn on the attraction to women? Perhaps you could explain the biological mechanism and how you consciously triggered it.
 
Old 05-12-2014, 03:10 PM
 
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An employer has the right to penalize an employee for making a comment it deems either prejudiced or inappropiate.

There are rules that I, as an employee, have to honor to satisfy my employer.

It was an expression of hate speech.

Bigots always feel "victimized" when there are consequences to their expressions of hate.
LOL Ok, yeah, hate speech. I think two men kissing is disgusting. OH MY GOD THATS HATE SPEECH!!!!!! WTH are you damn liberals and doing to this country?!?!!

My God, you cant even cringe at the site of two men kissing sloppily now. What the hell is next, you dare say you would never watch gay porn because its vile and disgusting and you'll be labeled a bigot?
 
Old 05-12-2014, 03:11 PM
 
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Sexual orientation is a choice? So you chose to be straight? You chose to be attracted to those of the opposite sex? I'd be curious to explore that.

Before you chose to be attracted solely to women, were you attracted to both men and women, or to neither men or women?

How did you decide your sexuality? Did you make a list of pros and cons for all sexualities? Did you seek the advice of your family and friends? Did you experiment by having sex with both men and women to see which one you liked more?

And once you made your decision, how did you hardwire that decision?

How did you make yourself attracted to women but not attracted to men? If you were initially attracted to both men and women, how did you selectively turn off the attraction to men? If you were initially attracted to neither men or women, how did you selectively turn on the attraction to women? Perhaps you could explain the biological mechanism and how you consciously triggered it.


Many lesbian women have had male partners. They chose lesbianism.


You have a choice to act out on your desires or not. Funny how most people have no problem with severely punishing a person who was born with a sexual orientation towards minors. That's because when they choose to act out, and it is a crime then. But from a logical perspective, I find it hypocritical if you believe that sexual orientation is created at birth. (and I don't)

You are not only discriminating, but punishing someone for their "sexual orientation".
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