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Old 05-12-2014, 11:03 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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I wonder if rock salt would have done the job.
Get the hell off my property would have done the trick.
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Old 05-12-2014, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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If you can't win it twist it...
Thus the reason the Montana man was arrested and is sitting his happy arse in jail.

Montana man charged with shooting teen in his garage - CBS News
I am not the one saying keys in a car or a open door makes stealing said car and home invasion legal..

That is your twisted world view...

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Old 05-12-2014, 11:06 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Get the hell off my property would have done the trick.
And if he was drunk or high and did not understand the homeowner, or just attacked him, then what?
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Old 05-12-2014, 11:14 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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Searching for Answers in a German Exchange Student Death in US - SPIEGEL ONLINE

"It was pitch black; there were no streetlights. And why should there be? The neighborhood is safe, a place where children can play on the streets. That, at least, is what Diren's host mother had always told him. Robby wasn't wearing his glasses and couldn't see very clearly. When Diren said that the garage door was open and he wanted to go in and look around, Robby turned around, shook his head and kept going. He said later that he had hoped Diren would follow him. But when he turned around again, Diren was nowhere to be seen."
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Old 05-12-2014, 11:15 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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And if he was drunk or high and did not understand the homeowner, or just attacked him, then what?
But, he didn't do that.
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Old 05-12-2014, 11:16 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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The German papers report it different and yes, I can post a link to it if you'd like. How do we know, (reuters?) the kid intended to do anything but snoop around. Got to remember he came from another country.

Ever walked into a neighbors garage and knock on a back door? Could be that is not what this child did, but it all comes into reason, we can no longer do as we once did in our communities, and that is depend on our neighbors for assistance. With an open garage door, to go up and knock to ask to use their phone or assistance in any way without the risk of being shot.

Do you not find that disturbing?
At 12:30 am? He was just knocking on the door to say hello? Why not use the front door? Look, ignorance of the law is no excuse. Go to another country, you better know the law. But frankly, you're trying to paint this kid as anything but what he was - a person committing a crime. Being a criminal can be a pretty hazardous thing.
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Old 05-12-2014, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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But, he didn't do that.
Says you...
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Old 05-12-2014, 11:24 PM
 
Location: Spokane, WA
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Here's links so you can read the actual Charging Affidavit. There's an amended one there as well. Doesn't look good for the homeowner, he made some bad tactical errors and might not make it through this trial without a conviction.

Slain German exchange student didn't burgle shooter's garage
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Old 05-12-2014, 11:24 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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I am not the one saying keys in a car or a open door makes steals and home invasion legal..

That is your twisted world view...
When I was growing up my parents use to tell me that when walking to school if there was an attacker, some one to do me harm, I was to run up to a house any house like I live there. A person can't do that today, because that which you may be running from, one may run into much the same.

Germany reminds me of our past. How things use to be here in the U.S. Maybe for not all states or cities or communities, but mine as a much nicer time in our era.

I'm not saying home invasions are legal, that is you twisting so as I can accept your world view.

The world sees the U.S as barbaric. Gee...can't imagine why that would be.
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Old 05-12-2014, 11:29 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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When I was growing up my parents use to tell me that when walking to school if there was an attacker, some one to do me harm, I was to run up to a house any house like I live there. A person can't do that today, because that which you may be running from, one may run into much the same.

Germany reminds me of our past. How things use to be here in the U.S. Maybe for not all states or cities or communities, but mine as a much nicer time in our era.

I'm not saying home invasions are legal, that is you twisting so as I can accept your world view.

The world sees the U.S as barbaric. Gee...can't imagine why that would be.
Hey, Germany is really nothing like America, now or the past.

Once again, seeing the worlds action over just the last 100 years, They are the ones who are barbaric, they have no room to talk.
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