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This exchange student should not have been in the owners garage but he did not deserve to die, this is sad and absolutely ridiculous that this occurred.
yeah another case of insanity that gun nuts will focus in on the crime of the dead.
If you read the story the guy setup a trap complete with baby monitors and a lure. Then ran around and boxed the teens in. Afraid for his life my ass. If your afraid you stay inside and call the cops when someone breaks into your garage. Not box them in.
The charge of murder he is currently accused of is about right.
yeah another case of insanity that gun nuts will focus in on the crime of the dead.
If you read the story the guy setup a trap complete with baby monitors and a lure. Then ran around and boxed the teens in. Afraid for his life my ass. If your afraid you stay inside and call the cops when someone breaks into your garage. Not box them in.
The charge of murder he is currently accused of is about right.
Then you need to make your lifes goal, to amend the 2nd amendment.
The amendment that protects your life, your liberty and your property.
Very good taking points fo a Liberal who wants to give up rights foe a sense of security. Have you ever been in a Life or Death Situation? The police on average is 8 minutes out and if you are in the country sometimes as 45 minutes out for the Sheriff to respond.
Let think about this?
this is what is insane. . .the absolute insanity. Like driving because you fear plane crashes.
Do you buy bombs that might blow up in your hand incase of invasion by Turks?
The idea of arming yourself to protect from a 1 in 100,000 event when the chances of accidental/purposeful death with that firearm within your own home is just as great or greater
Guns for safety - for people who aren't good at math.
Too Bad Too sad, this sends a message other would be robbers or Home Invasion.What if this young had a weapon of any sort?
We got to take control or be like Chicago! Let me give you a clue. Only Gangs have the guns, not legal gun owners!
Sends a message to who a 17 year old transfer student who was unarmed. Playing "what if" is a game for the paranoid to make them feel credible, he wasn't a gang member and was a decent kid from all reports. I am not condoning his actions, do we now start shooting teenagers for entering property no one in their right mind can see this as other than cold blooded murder, the courts will decide his fate.
Being on someone else's property isn't enough which is why the murderer is up on charges. In all civilized states you also have to have a reasonable fear for your life and you have to convince a jury that it was reasonable to fear for your life. This is how civilized states deal with such things while barbarian states have the wild west where a lot more people get killed including a lot of innocent people. Not the NRA gives a crap about the innocent people murdered.
Civilized cities like Newark, Camden, Detroit kill more 'innocent' people than all the wild west states put together despite the strictest gun laws especially in NJ.
To say the NRA cares not for innocent lives is delsuional.
The uncontrolled crime rate, as presented in the media, in the aforementioned cities scare the heck out of innocent law abiding people, some of which over react just as some police over react.
when people see how impractical it is to call 911 for help, during the act of being assaulted, they make palns to take care of themselves in such an emergency. Planning to kill the next person who breaks into your home is a required consideration if you have a firearm. Last thing you need is a guy with a firearm who has not thought out what he might do in a several different scenarios.
Slippery slope will charge a homeowner with arson if he buys a fire extinguisher in anticipation of a future fire. That is lawyerly strategy designed to throw it all against the wall and see if anything sticks.
Not seeing what you are shooting at is against all firearm and hunting credos and considered reckless behavior. Extenuating legal circumstances excepted.
the father is outraged, let him vent. The anti gun folks will coopt his pain.
MISSOULA, Mont. — Teenagers call it garage hopping. The goal was to sneak into an open garage, steal some beer or other items and slip away into the night. It was dumb and clearly illegal. It was not supposed to be deadly.
what a bunch of bull****
if someone is breaking into your house, you can't tell if they are "Garage hopping" (which i call B&E), or if they are staging a home invasion and planning on raping and murdering your entire family.
But the point is Mr Kaarma wanted someone to enter his garage, he left the purse there as bait! The garage was in darkness when Kaarma opened fire, it could have been a ten year old who had seen that purse for gods sake.
The fact is that Mr Kaarma lured that young man into his garage intending to kill him. Mr Kaarma and his family were, at no time, ever in any danger.
But the point is Mr Kaarma wanted someone to enter his garage, he left the purse there as bait!
they deny that the purse was left as bait. they say it was in a dark corner.
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The fact is that Mr Kaarma lured that young man into his garage intending to kill him.
that is not a fact. Mr. Kaarma did expect someone to show up and commit a crime, but there's no evidence that he lured anyone in.
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