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I should never have been near a window when a man was beating on my back door wanting to speak to someone named Joseph but I was in clear view of him while providing 911 a description. It didn't seem to phase him one bit to look down the barrel of a 9mm. Luckily the door held until the police arrived. I was subpoenaed to testify in the trial but he pleaded to criminal trespass.
He had been extremely intoxicated and picked the correct apartment but in the wrong building. His buddy Joseph was in the building to the east of me. He had no idea how close he came to becoming a news report that night.
Unless you actively practice for these types of situations, then tactical mistakes will be made. On the other hand, if you do practice for these types of situations then you will be labeled a paranoid nut case on this forum and you will be accused of premeditated murder if you do have to use your training. Sort of a catch-22 situation.
Negative. Training = prepared. Setting a trap and bragging to folks about wanting to shoot somebody = planned.
this is very very tragic....
my take is I can surely understand the father's outrage, this is his son, and first response would be anger and outrage....plus blame, which is understandable
but I can also feel for the owner of the home who shot him...especially if he's been robbed before.
When someone robs you, you feel violated, and you never feel safe in your home any longer. Wondering when it will happen again, your losses are many, sleep, trust, anger, the whole nine yards...
this is simply tragic all the way around...and it happens, accidents happen, they cannot be prevented....
I can understand someone being angry over a previous robbery, the prior robbery was drug paraphernalia and some pot from a garage.. Still a robbery but not on the level of a broken door and finding your entire house ransacked.
That's called hearsay and might not be admitted if this goes to trial.
I'm no lawyer, but it seems to me if the hairdresser were subpoenaed and testified, that his/her testimony about what Mr. Kaarma told HER would not be hearsay.
Your own liberty maybe, but you don't give a damn about a kid being killed for a minor crime....Many teens take the wrong path when young, but most straighten up and fly right....I suppose you have never broken the law have you Mr. perfect? Stealing does not deserve the death penalty, especially by vigilantism... Your attitude is sick and bordering on psychotic.
I did not know that in Canada theft, trespassing and home invasion are all minor offenses, and just because he is young does not mean it is okay to commit serious crimes.
As far as I know shot kid could only be accused of trespassing, there was no theft or home invasion.
Trespassing is not a serious crime but homicide is, and this is what the redneck in question is charged with.
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Originally Posted by Prarie State
I did not know that in Canada theft, trespassing and home invasion are all minor offenses, and just because he is young does not mean it is okay to commit serious crimes.
As far as I know shot kid could only be accused of trespassing, there was no theft or home invasion.
Trespassing is not a serious crime but homicide is, and this is what the redneck in question is charged with.
So someone in your home at 2am is just a trespasser?
No, at 1:59 am that someone automatically becomes a murder lol. You can charge them with breaking and entering if that's what happened but theft? Not unless they stole something.
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So someone in your home at 2am is just a trespasser?
No, at 1:59 am that someone automatically becomes a murder lol. You can charge them with breaking and entering if that's what happened but theft? Not unless they stole something.
Anyone in my home at 2am who I deem a threat is dead regardless of what he could be charged with if the police showed up...
This kid didn't deserve to die because I don't think he was a real threat to the homeowner based on the facts we have seen so far, but it was a risk he took when he invaded another man's home.
Here is a good story, a lady caught someone breaking into her house and reported it to police. For her trouble she was burglarized again, harassed, threatened and ultimately her house burned down. House torched in black-on-white revenge attack
Though maybe she should of had a conversation with the perps to find their true intentions before calling the police.
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