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I have proven that all industrialized nations which introduced strict gun control, nations located on different continents and with different cultural and ethnic makeup, enjoy much lower crime rates than ours, simply because of their strict gun control.
Canada, Australia, Japan, Italy, Germany, France all these countries enjoy crime rates well below ours, are much safer and all have strict gun control. You need more proof? Lol
Don't teach me about American values, I live in New York State which enjoyed American values when Nevada was still a desert.
I don't have to move anywhere! I live in New York that has strict gun laws already, but if you rednecks ever complain about crime in your own states then remember that I you yourselves allowed this to happen because of your crazy gun laws.
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Originally Posted by gunlover
Once again, they do have the same heritage, culture, and system of self government that we do.
You are comparing people and nations why have more apart then they do in common..
How was the murder in Spain in the late 1930`s?
How was the murder rate in Italy in the late 1930`s to early 1940`s?
How was the murder rate in Germany in the late 1930`s to mid 1940`s?
What about the massive raise in violent crime in Australia after the gun bans?
That is right just ignore it and move along.
We care about protection our culture, liberty, freedoms, rights, lives and prosperity and that of our posterity.
You want to live a different culture, you wish to make this nation into the antitheses of what is meant to be?
Leave...
Its clear you don't understand America, its founding, its history, its heritage, its culture, The Constitution and its propose, and a vast majority of its people..
I have proven that all industrialized nations which introduced strict gun control, nations located on different continents and with different cultural and ethnic makeup, enjoy much lower crime rates than ours, simply because of strict gun control. Canada, Australia, Japan, Italy, Germany, France all enjoy crime rates well below ours, are much safer and all have strict gun control. You need more proof? Lol
No you have not you just say it and when we ask for link you are no where to be found...
Go ahead claim what you say is gospel, fine, their a mountains upon mountains of data that proves you wrong..
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with different cultural and ethnic makeup
So you are saying that culture and ethnic/race play a part in crime?
We also enjoy far more freedom then those nations...
Go ahead claim what you say is gospel, fine, their a mountains upon mountains of data that proves you wrong..
Lmao. Oh, sure. Why don't you quote that data that proves me wrong.... Lol
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Originally Posted by gunlover
So you are saying that culture and ethnic/race play a part in crime?
We also enjoy far more freedom then those nations...
Sure we enjoy more freedom than Canadians, Australians or Germans . Can you give any examples of that freedoms we enjoy that are unknown to Canadians or Australians? ROTFL
Anti-gunners have examples of Canada, Australia, Germany, Spain, Italy, England, Japan and all the other industrialized nations with very strict gun laws and murder rates few times lower than others. There is nothing left to prove here.
We all know how to make this country safer but you guys just don't care, as long as you get to play with your toys.
You don't seem to be able to grasp the fact that all these countries are so much smaller than the US in population.
No you have not you just say it and when we ask for link you are no where to be found...
Go ahead claim what you say is gospel, fine, their a mountains upon mountains of data that proves you wrong..
So you are saying that culture and ethnic/race play a part in crime?
We also enjoy far more freedom then those nations...
That's a blatant lie. Scandinavia and France, Holland, and Germany (others too) are ranked ahead of the US in a number areas.
These countries rank higher in both freedom of the press and freedom of speech according to amnesty international and the UN.
Honestly how can a country with the highest proportion of a adult citizens incarcerated be considered more free than others where hardly anyone is in jail.
The only thing America leads in terms of freedom anymore is the freedom to be an uncultured buffoon who lacks any concept of how to tether an argument to factual reality and ignorance about other countries.
Your argument of romanticized, yet baseless platitudes is a fantastic example of this.
And that makes so much difference? How about the European Union then? It has 500,000,000 population on 1.5 million sq miles and still crime rates much lower than ours... Did I forget to mention EU has strict gun control? LMAO
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Originally Posted by Prarie State
You don't seem to be able to grasp the fact that all these countries are so much smaller than the US in population.
You don't seem to be able to grasp the fact that all these countries are so much smaller than the US in population.
You don't seem to grasp the fact that these countries are incredibly diverse from each other demographically, culturally etc.
What these countries do so is that gun control works in high population countries like Germany and low population countries like Denmark. It shows that gun control works in high population density countries like holland and low population densities like Canada. It shows that gun control works in culture with Anglo heritage like Australia and Francophone cultures such as France.
Since all of these very different countries have way fewer gun deaths, violent crime rates etc it only goes to show that the US is too big argument is nothing more than a short sighted lazy attempt to discredit the fact that gun control has been effective throughout the first world
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