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Old 08-12-2014, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Liberal sell-outs and hypocrites:

The LA Times on Tuesday reported that California would exempt Tesla Motors Inc. from some of its toughest environmental regulations as part of an incentive package being discussed with the automaker to build a massive battery factory there.

“It would help them speed the process,” state Sen. Ted Gaines said after a meeting with Tesla officials at the company’s Palo Alto, Calif., headquarters and assembly line in Fremont, east of San Francisco, the paper reported.


Just like those greedy liberals - anything for a dollar.
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Old 08-12-2014, 03:17 PM
 
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Its good to be a crony
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Old 08-12-2014, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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Every state and most cities bend over backwards for large factories to set up in their area. Subsidies and special rules carve outs are just how it is done and every large corporation both knows it and demands it. Sure, I wish this wasn't how the game was played but you are the pot calling the kettle black for whining about one state while ignoring the other 49 doing the same thing. This is a $6 billion factory so of course states are pulling out all of the stops. Texas, Nevada, Arizona, and New Mexico are all doing the same thing.
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Old 08-12-2014, 03:22 PM
 
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Every state and most cities bend over backwards for large factories to set up in their area. Subsidies and special rules carve outs are just how it is done and every large corporation both knows it and demands it. Sure, I wish this wasn't how the game was played but you are the pot calling the kettle black for whining about one state while ignoring the other 49 doing the same thing. This is a $6 billion factory so of course states are pulling out all of the stops. Texas, Nevada, Arizona, and New Mexico are all doing the same thing.
So you are against,for, or does it feel good to type out of both sides of the keyboard?
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Old 08-12-2014, 03:23 PM
 
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This is why environmentalism can't be taken seriously.
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Old 08-12-2014, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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Senator Gaines is a Republican, claims Brown is making a deal, and is author of a bill that would give concessions to Tesla. Musk is playing CA, NV, AZ, NM, & TX against each other to get the best state deal but he's already decided on Reno, Nevada and broken ground there.
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Old 08-12-2014, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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This is why environmentalism can't be taken seriously.
The environmental standards are not being waived. The deal apparently would be to fast track environmental approvals with any issues or deficiencies to be fixed during or after construction.
Nevada is the closest state to the CA assembly plant and has lower taxes and fewer environmental laws. Texas is out of the running due to distance and to laws that protect auto dealerships and prohibit Tesla's direct-to-consumer sales model. Tesla's showrooms in Texas are not allowed to sell cars or even give customers the Tesla website address. Yay Texas free enterprise!
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Old 08-12-2014, 03:39 PM
 
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Senator Gaines is a Republican, claims Brown is making a deal, and is author of a bill that would give concessions to Tesla. Musk is playing CA, NV, AZ, NM, & TX against each other to get the best state deal but he's already decided on Reno, Nevada and broken ground there.
He has also broken ground in east bay. Musk has said right now they are just clearing the land and want to see what the permit process is like in each state and then he will go ahead with which ever site offers the most incentives. You are right that Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona seem to be out of the running though. Texas offered big subsidies but had the worst work force plus the state refuses to allow direct sales because of the political corruption of the state's dealership lobby which wants to outlaw direct competition.
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Old 08-12-2014, 03:51 PM
 
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Every state and most cities bend over backwards for large factories to set up in their area. Subsidies and special rules carve outs are just how it is done and every large corporation both knows it and demands it. Sure, I wish this wasn't how the game was played but you are the pot calling the kettle black for whining about one state while ignoring the other 49 doing the same thing. This is a $6 billion factory so of course states are pulling out all of the stops. Texas, Nevada, Arizona, and New Mexico are all doing the same thing.
Do you have another example where environmental regulations are waived?
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Old 08-12-2014, 03:52 PM
 
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The environmental standards are not being waived.

Calif. may waive enviro rules for Tesla

Calif. may waive enviro rules for Tesla | Albuquerque Journal News

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The deal apparently would be to fast track environmental approvals with any issues or deficiencies to be fixed during or after construction.
Nevada is the closest state to the CA assembly plant and has lower taxes and fewer environmental laws. Texas is out of the running due to distance and to laws that protect auto dealerships and prohibit Tesla's direct-to-consumer sales model. Tesla's showrooms in Texas are not allowed to sell cars or even give customers the Tesla website address. Yay Texas free enterprise!
No, it waives regulations AND allows for any damage to be dealt with later.

According to the LA Times, California officials familiar with discussions said Tesla also might be allowed to start construction and mitigate any potential damage later. Also being discussed is whether to limit lawsuits that could slow the project.
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