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Old 05-14-2014, 09:14 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The west Antarctic ice sheet is a glacier and sits on land, but is now sliding into the ocean....It would help if you read the article the OP linked to. The West Antarctic ice sheet sits in a bowl-shaped depression in the Earth, with the base of the ice below sea level. Warm ocean water is causing the ice along the rim of the bowl to thin and retreat.

A glacier is a glacier. An ice sheet is an ice sheet. The original poster obviously has these terms mixed up then to confuse the audience then.

The glacier there has broken off into the ocean creating icebergs for millenniums. That is what they do, unless they are landlocked.
The ice sheet surrounding Antarctica, is at record levels. That doesn't happen in a sauna.

So, there must be something else at play here, heating the soil from beneath the Glacier(not ice sheet) and not the air temp from above.
Isn't this Glacier coming down a high dormant volcano?
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Old 05-14-2014, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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NatGeo has some good graphics on the situation:

West Antarctica Glaciers Collapsing, Adding to Sea-Level Rise
Good link, just don't read the comments, they have to be some of the dumbest comments I have read.
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Old 05-14-2014, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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A glacier is a glacier. An ice sheet is an ice sheet. The original poster obviously has these terms mixed up then to confuse the audience then.

The glacier there has broken off into the ocean creating icebergs for millenniums. That is what they do, unless they are landlocked.
The ice sheet surrounding Antarctica, is at record levels. That doesn't happen in a sauna.

So, there must be something else at play here, heating the soil from beneath the Glacier(not ice sheet) and not the air temp from above.
Isn't this Glacier coming down a high dormant volcano?
That is sea ice, not an ice sheet. Seriously, how more wrong can you get?
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Old 05-14-2014, 09:20 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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That is sea ice, not an ice sheet. Seriously, how more wrong can you get?

This guy didn't call it an ice sheet... LOL
West Antarctica Glaciers Collapsing, Adding to Sea-Level Rise


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Old 05-14-2014, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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This guy didn't call it an ice sheet... LOL
West Antarctica Glaciers Collapsing, Adding to Sea-Level Rise


Now they are icebergs melting in the ocean.
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Old 05-14-2014, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
A glacier is a glacier. An ice sheet is an ice sheet. The original poster obviously has these terms mixed up then to confuse the audience then.

The glacier there has broken off into the ocean creating icebergs for millenniums. That is what they do, unless they are landlocked.
The ice sheet surrounding Antarctica, is at record levels. That doesn't happen in a sauna.

So, there must be something else at play here, heating the soil from beneath the Glacier(not ice sheet) and not the air temp from above.
Isn't this Glacier coming down a high dormant volcano?
Why don't you read one of the two articles about this? It is all explained, particularly in the Nat geo article.
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Old 05-14-2014, 09:39 AM
 
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Looks like we've got some time to deal with it, but no sense in piddling around with something this serious.

I don't want the grandkids blaming me for destroying the planet and walking away from the mess.

Solution-

Every liberal needs to -

1. give up central heating and air conditioning

2. stop driving a car

3. stop taking private or commerical flights

4. stop using plastics


Since liberals are so concerned about 'global warming", they can do the above tasks and set an example for everyone.


................ meanwhile............ back in reality....... the sea ice and net volume of ice in the Antartic is at record levels. I guess the libs forgot about that part.
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Old 05-14-2014, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Good link, just don't read the comments, they have to be some of the dumbest comments I have read.
Especially that Moore guy's comments.
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Old 05-14-2014, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Looks like we've got some time to deal with it, but no sense in piddling around with something this serious.

I don't want the grandkids blaming me for destroying the planet and walking away from the mess.
Two Google searches 'produce same CO2 as boiling a kettle' - Telegraph

Here's an article from 2009 saying that 2 google searches require the same energy as boiling a cup of tea. I wonder what the carbon footprint of a 13 page CD thread is. I alone did two google searches to find the above article, and the one from New Scientist that I posted earlier.
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Old 05-14-2014, 09:48 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Now they are icebergs melting in the ocean.

Actually you understand what is being hyped, has happened annually for millenniums.

The Thwaites glazier has created the Thwaites ice SHELF. Where it has created icebergs since Antarctica froze over.


The sea ice is what supports the ice shelf, being pushed out by the glacier.
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