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Old 05-14-2014, 06:56 AM
 
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Unbelievably selfish attitude ...I guess you have no children or grandchildren. Also the predictions are for a rise of one meter but by the end of THIS century....

The U.S. is a coastal nation with over 12,000 miles of coastline. With 53% of all Americans living in and around coastal cities and towns, it is important to understand the impact of climate-induced sea level rise on our nation. Previous studies have focused on a six-meter rise. The following study takes a more conservative approach, beginning with a sea level rise of just one meter. Architecture 2030: Nation Under Siege

Ok, you can go re-bury your head now.
You don't answer my simple question. How do you propose we feed 8 billion people without a heavily fossil fueled agriculture system? How do we feed billions of poor and needy throughout the 3rd world that depend on the US alone to feed them?

How do you stop a billion Chinese and a billion Indians from moving into the middle class, demanding automobiles and computers and everything else that causes the planet to warm?

I mean you are running around preaching what exactly? This is almost child like.

The only answer, and you know it is to reduce the population drastically because the ONLY REASON there are 8 billion people on the planet is because of fossil fuels. Look it up.
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Old 05-14-2014, 07:12 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Looks like we've got some time to deal with it, but no sense in piddling around with something this serious.

I don't want the grandkids blaming me for destroying the planet and walking away from the mess.
Well if we attack China, Inda and every other country and take over their governments we can then levy taxes on their people which will be used for ...what will it be used for??? and then save what is left of the planet...maybe.

Sounds like the children will be coming down with a severe case of CCA...Climate change anxiety.
the children might want to you the read about Henny Penney and the warning that the sky was about to fall.

Fear more that your grandchildren will think of you as a dupe and in the same light as the ancient central American people who sacrificed humans so the priests would intercede with the gods on their behalf and bring the sun or moon when they disappeared in the night sky because another planet was passing by in front of them.

If the ice sheets are melting as the article states your best bet for salvation would be prayer not more taxation.
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Old 05-14-2014, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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The denial people remind me so much of those that mocked Noah
no one is denying it is happening, but what do you propose be done about it, how can you stop it from happening...the op's title was, "It's happening so fast, nothing can be done about it". What do you propose be done about antartica melting? No human being can stop it...it's part of a weather cycle....is it bad, yes, is it happening, yes....
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Old 05-14-2014, 07:15 AM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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I guess you don't know the difference between sea ice (frozen salt water) that has no effect on sea level rise, and land ice (fresh water ice) that will cause the ocean to rise...If all the ice covering Antarctica melted the sea would rise by 200 feet.
And?
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Old 05-14-2014, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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It makes sense only because other people have to pay for your green energy.
And do you pay for all the coal energy or do others pay for that too? Such a silly strawman argument, no one pays their full share, not even you.
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Old 05-14-2014, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Unbelievably selfish attitude ...I guess you have no children or grandchildren. Also the predictions are for a rise of one meter but by the end of THIS century....

The U.S. is a coastal nation with over 12,000 miles of coastline. With 53% of all Americans living in and around coastal cities and towns, it is important to understand the impact of climate-induced sea level rise on our nation. Previous studies have focused on a six-meter rise. The following study takes a more conservative approach, beginning with a sea level rise of just one meter. Architecture 2030: Nation Under Siege

Ok, you can go re-bury your head now.
After "the flood", we would still have thousands of miles of coastline. And people would live by the coast.
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Old 05-14-2014, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Follow the money!

Google a guy named Maurice Strong!
He is the mastermind behind the global tax scheme.
Former UN head honcho and founder of the World Conservation Bank.


Now back to the Antarctica


Global: Antarctica Ice Sheet - April 2014

Antarctic sea ice coverage reached record levels for April, hitting 3.5 million square miles — the largest on record.
It was a cold summer down in Antarctica, with sea ice coverage growing about 43,500 square miles a day, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSDC). April 2014 beats the previous sea-ice coverage record from April 2008 by a whopping 124,000 square miles.

Yup, follow the money.... http://www.opr.ca.gov/images/Deniers_Figure_2.png
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Old 05-14-2014, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Nature is unstoppable... so what's new? And the dire predictions of 10 feet level change over HUNDREDS of years... really? Global warming BS never ceases to amaze me... You will be dead before you realize it was total BS...
So in other words, screw future generations. Why do anything that involves planning for the future, we should just live in the day and never care about what might be coming.
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Old 05-14-2014, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Follow the money!

Google a guy named Maurice Strong!
He is the mastermind behind the global tax scheme.
Former UN head honcho and founder of the World Conservation Bank.


Now back to the Antarctica


Global: Antarctica Ice Sheet - April 2014

Antarctic sea ice coverage reached record levels for April, hitting 3.5 million square miles — the largest on record.
It was a cold summer down in Antarctica, with sea ice coverage growing about 43,500 square miles a day, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSDC). April 2014 beats the previous sea-ice coverage record from April 2008 by a whopping 124,000 square miles.

SEA ice and LAND ice are two different things, why do you guys keep confusing the two as if they are the same??
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Old 05-14-2014, 07:25 AM
 
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Absolutely. And I don't see anyone panicking about continental drift. You folks think you have or can have control over everything. The US could be where Antarctica is now someday. Would warming still be a problem?

But we can stop continental drift now if we each pay a small "Drift Tax" to the government. Not paying your Drift Tax is simply un-American. You see, each time you take a step, you are causing small vibrations that aggravate this drifting. A Tax would help dampen these small waves you are causing because your wallet would be lighter.


Not to mention that the US is in danger of capsizing.

lmao...PERFECT!
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