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Old 05-15-2014, 09:31 AM
 
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The vote in Congress was never a mandate to invade Iraq, it was a vote to fund any possible action. The POTUS and no one else made the final go/no go decision.
Sure, it was Bush who made the final decision, but Clinton, Kerry, Biden, Reid and 107 other D's gave him authority to 'use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in order to defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq.'

Iraq was a bipartisan war.

I give left-wing Truth-Out credit for admitting D's share the blame for the war:

"Here on the tenth anniversary of the Iraq War, it is important to remember that it was not just those in the Bush White House who were responsible for the tragedy, but leading members of Congress as well, some of whom are now in senior positions in the Obama administration...

..the anti-American extremism in reaction to the invasion and occupation which has spread throughout much of the world all could have been avoided if the Democratic-controlled Senate hadn't voted to authorize this illegal and unnecessary war and occupation."

Democrats Share the Blame for Tragedy of Iraq War
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Old 05-15-2014, 09:35 AM
 
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I don't think you really understand the capabilities of chemical weapons and the ease of portability and damage that they can do.
That poster is ignorant of the fact that biological and chemical weapons are also classified as WMDs.

As I said, too many people know far too little about what really happened. They just inanely parrot spoon-fed talking points.
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Old 05-15-2014, 09:39 AM
 
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The vote in Congress was never a mandate to invade Iraq, it was a vote to fund any possible action. The POTUS and no one else made the final go/no go decision.
And WHAT was the NAME of the Bill?
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Old 05-15-2014, 09:54 AM
 
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Sure, it was Bush who made the final decision, but Clinton, Kerry, Biden, Reid and 107 other D's gave him authority to 'use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in order to defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq.'

Iraq was a bipartisan war.
No it wasn't. It was a republican affair forced on the entire nation while complacent democrats voted yes, scared to be branded as anti-patriotic by the republican propaganda machine. Here's the actual vote, I don't think it needs explanation as you can easily see which party gave full support to this misguided legislation :


The House
Party Yes Nays PRES No Vote
Republican 215 6 0 2
Democratic 82 126 0 1
Independent 0 1 0 0
TOTALS 297 133 0 3

The Senate:

Party Ayes Nays No Vote
Republican 48 1 0
Democratic 29 21 0
Independent 0 1 0
TOTALS 77 23 0

Stop lying.
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Old 05-15-2014, 09:59 AM
 
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Well, Saddam is one of those 4500, so I doubt he's laughing about pulling a fast one on us.
Uhh...you're gonna die one day too. So what? Will your death prove to be a victory for someone else outside of Father Time?

Saddam being dead is meaningless. He would've died one day anyway and it wouldn't have cost us a few trillion to pay for his funeral.

Now if you're into bragging about Pyrrhic Victories, that's one thing. Good for you....4500 dead Americans for one dead despot. I'd love to gamble against you one day. I'd take all your money.
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I don't think you really understand the capabilities of chemical weapons and the ease of portability and damage that they can do.
We were sold on the idea that he had NUKES.

Remember the words about not wanting to find out "in the form of a mushroom cloud?"

Yeah...he wasn't talking about that can of Raid under your kitchen sink.
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Old 05-15-2014, 09:59 AM
 
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He's saying please don't hold Hillary accountable for her vote ..... we'd like to re-write history here.
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Old 05-15-2014, 10:04 AM
 
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According to them, only Bush knew.

Damn, the man is smart!
Haven't we been hearing that Hillary is the smartest person ever. And the dumb guy Bush pulled one over on her.
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Old 05-15-2014, 10:04 AM
 
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Hillary and other democrats are fully accountable for giving in to the republican war mongering machine. You can't say however that war in Iraq was a bipartisan effort as more democrats voted against the war than for the war.




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He's saying please don't hold Hillary accountable for her vote ..... we'd like to re-write history here.
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Old 05-15-2014, 10:06 AM
 
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He pulled one over the most of us and the Brits, too. Hope he burns in hell for this.




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Haven't we been hearing that Hillary is the smartest person ever. And the dumb guy Bush pulled one over on her.
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Old 05-15-2014, 10:06 AM
 
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No it wasn't. It was a republican affair forced on the entire nation while complacent democrats voted yes, scared to be branded as anti-patriotic by the republican propaganda machine. Here's the actual vote, I don't think it needs explanation as you can easily see which party gave full support to this misguided legislation :


The House
Party Yes Nays PRES No Vote
Republican 215 6 0 2
Democratic 82 126 0 1
Independent 0 1 0 0
TOTALS 297 133 0 3

The Senate:

Party Ayes Nays No Vote
Republican 48 1 0
Democratic 29 21 0
Independent 0 1 0
TOTALS 77 23 0
That was clearly bipartisan.

The example you're looking for in citing single-party forced legislation is Obamacare.

No Republicans voted for it. More Americans have ALWAYS been opposed to it than in favor of it. And it remains unpopular to this day.
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