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I can tell you if you want me, it's $50.00 hour, you can accept or decline, as can I. Both sides have veto power, and neither side can force the other. The "last word" is reserved for he who speaks last, pure and simple.
If I forced you.....that would be a slave....not a employee.
If I forced you.....that would be a slave....not a employee.
Precisely - that is why you do NOT have the last word, both employer and employee have the last word, should they chose to use it. Pure Democracy. Both can say take it or leave, issue counter offers, accept, decline etc. Ain't it grand!!!
Precisely - that is why you do NOT have the last word, both employer and employee have the last word, should they chose to use it. Pure Democracy. Both can say take it or leave, issue counter offers, accept, decline etc. Ain't it grand!!!
First, conservatives discuss the relationship of employers and employees without regards to the real world.
There of course are huge power imbalances generally between one worker and one employer.
Usually employers have far more access to politicians, have far more power and leverage when negotiating salary with the vast majority of workers, and they have much more knowledge of the company's financial situation and how that worker's production contributes to the bottom-line, and they have the reality that other employers in the same industry have an incentive to not pay high salaries as well.
It is with this reality that negotiations over salary takes place, not in this world where employees can just quit and are mostly assured to get higher pay if they do.
So the question becomes does the government mitigate problems for business owners that make those business owners more money? Does the government do things specifically to benefits business owners that end up making those business owners more money? The answer is YES to both of those questions.
We live in a world in which businesses and business owners and rich people lobby the government all the time for the government to fix problems or address issues to make these powerful people and businesses more money and this is done without a peep from conservatives. In fact the conservative supreme court wants the rich and powerful to have even more impact on politics.
So the world that conservatives want is the world where owners and rich people regularly go to state, local and federal government to fix problems for them which makes them more money, but working class Americans can't do the same?
The minimum wage exists because of that obvious power imbalance and the government and most sane citizens recognizes that the government just like it does over and over for business is trying to solve a problem for some workers.
This is somehow wrong for individual workers to petition their government the same way that business owners regularly petition the government is what is so revealing about conservative political ideology.
conservativism is about exclusion for many conservatives business owners begging and spending huge amounts on the government to create legislation that favors them is normal and hardly note worthy, but working class Americans petitioning the government that hey I have this problem please address it, is wrong, because to conservatives business owners count and working class people don't.
First, conservatives discuss the relationship of employers and employees without regards to the real world.
There of course are huge power imbalances generally between one worker and one employer.
Usually employers have far more access to politicians, have far more power and leverage when negotiating salary with the vast majority of workers, and they have much more knowledge of the company's financial situation and how that worker's production contributes to the bottom-line, and they have the reality that other employers in the same industry have an incentive to not pay high salaries as well.
It is with this reality that negotiations over salary takes place, not in this world where employees can just quit and are mostly assured to get higher pay if they do.
So the question becomes does the government mitigate problems for business owners that make those business owners more money? Does the government do things specifically to benefits business owners that end up making those business owners more money? The answer is YES to both of those questions.
We live in a world in which businesses and business owners and rich people lobby the government all the time for the government to fix problems or address issues to make these powerful people and businesses more money and this is done without a peep from conservatives. In fact the conservative supreme court wants the rich and powerful to have even more impact on politics.
So the world that conservatives want is the world where owners and rich people regularly go to state, local and federal government to fix problems for them which makes them more money, but working class Americans can't do the same?
The minimum wage exists because of that obvious power imbalance and the government and most sane citizens recognizes that the government just like it does over and over for business is trying to solve a problem for some workers.
This is somehow wrong for individual workers to petition their government the same way that business owners regularly petition the government is what is so revealing about conservative political ideology.
conservativism is about exclusion for many conservatives business owners begging and spending huge amounts on the government to create legislation that favors them is normal and hardly note worthy, but working class Americans petitioning the government that hey I have this problem please address it, is wrong, because to conservatives business owners count and working class people don't.
First, conservatives discuss the relationship of employers and employees without regards to the real world.
There of course are huge power imbalances generally between one worker and one employer.
Usually employers have far more access to politicians, have far more power and leverage when negotiating salary with the vast majority of workers, and they have much more knowledge of the company's financial situation and how that worker's production contributes to the bottom-line, and they have the reality that other employers in the same industry have an incentive to not pay high salaries as well.
It is with this reality that negotiations over salary takes place, not in this world where employees can just quit and are mostly assured to get higher pay if they do.
So the question becomes does the government mitigate problems for business owners that make those business owners more money? Does the government do things specifically to benefits business owners that end up making those business owners more money? The answer is YES to both of those questions.
We live in a world in which businesses and business owners and rich people lobby the government all the time for the government to fix problems or address issues to make these powerful people and businesses more money and this is done without a peep from conservatives. In fact the conservative supreme court wants the rich and powerful to have even more impact on politics.
So the world that conservatives want is the world where owners and rich people regularly go to state, local and federal government to fix problems for them which makes them more money, but working class Americans can't do the same?
The minimum wage exists because of that obvious power imbalance and the government and most sane citizens recognizes that the government just like it does over and over for business is trying to solve a problem for some workers.
This is somehow wrong for individual workers to petition their government the same way that business owners regularly petition the government is what is so revealing about conservative political ideology.
conservativism is about exclusion for many conservatives business owners begging and spending huge amounts on the government to create legislation that favors them is normal and hardly note worthy, but working class Americans petitioning the government that hey I have this problem please address it, is wrong, because to conservatives business owners count and working class people don't.
You don't get out into the "real world" much, do you. I can guarantee that a huge majority of business owners have never lobbied the govt for their business, or gone to a the government to fix one of their problems. Please show me some sort of proof that business owners petition the government more than the average citizen.
As for the corporations that do hire lobbyists, I can also guarantee that they are not all conservative.
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