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Old 12-13-2007, 02:02 PM
 
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And on May 2, a Christian father in Ramallah killed his 22-year-old daughter after she told him she wanted to marry a Muslim man, triggering demonstrations by both Christian and Muslim women in that city.


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Old 12-13-2007, 02:02 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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How many is a few wackos in Islam?

The figures of those who support terrorism and jihad runs around 20% or more....that is more than a few wackos...

The figure varies depending upon the nation,in some nations it runs 70%...
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Old 12-13-2007, 02:02 PM
 
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Plus, you're comparing a church with about 30 members (mostly from the same family) to a religion with over a billion followers.
Well you’re indicating that the actions of one person represents the beliefs of muslims, who total over a billion too. So in your logic, one person can account for the beliefs of over a billion people but 30 people cannot do the same for another religion?
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Old 12-13-2007, 02:03 PM
 
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Phelps calls himself a Christian Democrat, it's a package deal, you buy one you own both.
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Old 12-13-2007, 02:06 PM
 
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A recent survey on violence against women in Pakistan has found that 71 per cent males consider slapping and beating women as justifiable.

According to the survey, 80 per cent of women are victims of domestic violence in society.
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Old 12-13-2007, 02:08 PM
 
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Phelps calls himself a Christian Democrat, it's a package deal, you buy one you own both.
Ok, I think I understand this whole discussion, the guy who killed his daughter represents wholly and accurately the tenets of islam and therefore all muslims. So following that logic by those opposed to islam, then phelps, who is a christian and has his own church, then represents all christians. Since he is a democrat, then all christians hate homosexuals and are democrats. After all, that is the logic being applied to muslims due to the actions of a few fundamentalists. So fundamentalist beliefs are the true representations of a religion. Got it now. Thanks everyone.
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Old 12-13-2007, 02:10 PM
 
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How many is a few wackos in Islam?

The figures of those who support terrorism and jihad runs around 20% or more....that is more than a few wackos...

The figure varies depending upon the nation,in some nations it runs 70%...

This is documented where? And what reason is there to believe those who support terrorism are any more true Muslims than Phelps and his ilk are true Christians?

And even IF accurate, we should condemn over 80% of a large group of people for the beliefs of 20%?

What's the trigger point? 5%? 10%? 15%?
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Old 12-13-2007, 02:14 PM
 
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Ok, I think I understand this whole discussion, the guy who killed his daughter represents wholly and accurately the tenets of islam and therefore all muslims. So following that logic by those opposed to islam, then phelps, who is a christian and has his own church, then represents all christians. Since he is a democrat, then all christians hate homosexuals and are democrats. After all, that is the logic being applied to muslims due to the actions of a few fundamentalists. So fundamentalist beliefs are the true representations of a religion. Got it now. Thanks everyone.


That's the way it works in the "My God is better than your God" world.

Those opposed can be 'educated' by Inquisition, Crusade, Witch Trial, Jihad, Holy War, or other convenient traditions.
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Old 12-13-2007, 02:15 PM
 
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Bad, but it says more about the culture of Pakistan than it does about Muslims worldwide, and especially Muslims such as those in the US, Europe, and Canada who choose to move to liberal democracies.
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Old 12-13-2007, 02:15 PM
 
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This is documented where? And what reason is there to believe those who support terrorism are any more true Muslims than Phelps and his ilk are true Christians?

And even IF accurate, we should condemn over 80% of a large group of people for the beliefs of 20%?

What's the trigger point? 5%? 10%? 15%?
Pew poll.

what people should do is stop saying it is just a handful of wackos,it is a over 20% of those who responded honestly saying they support violence in the name of Islam....

How can any sane person look around the globe and see the violence being pereptrated BY Muslims on others and NOT thinkthere has to be a high level of support for it?
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