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Old 05-19-2014, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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So we should police our free speech because other people in other countries might take offense and kill more Americans, in their country?

Yes. This is exactly what I believe. Freedom is never 100% free. Idiots have no rights to speak especially what he says cause innocent lives.
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Old 05-19-2014, 11:25 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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well I guess you and I have different priorities then.

You believe that one idiot's behavior (like burning the Koran) should be protected by constitution even though many people lives have to be lost because of that idiotic behavior.
As long as that "idiot's" behavior doesn't directly harm another person, it should be protected.
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Old 05-19-2014, 11:26 AM
 
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The flag is a piece of cloth, not the shroud of turin. Burn baby burn.
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Old 05-19-2014, 11:27 AM
 
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well I guess you and I have different priorities then.

You believe that one idiot's behavior (like burning the Koran) should be protected by constitution even though many people lives have to be lost because of that idiotic behavior.
Hah! So you are saying that if a group of people create chaos as a result of some idiotic action ... then, that is reason enough to outlaw that action?
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Old 05-19-2014, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Nonsense.

Shouting fire in a public movie theater is a poor analogy to this case. No one is panicking when some goofball ruins a flag.

Who cares what one does with a piece of cloth? As long as they are not setting you or your property on fire, it is of no consequence to you or anyone else.
Well, if American flag is just a piece of cloth as you claim, then why burning it just to make a statement?

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Old 05-19-2014, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Hah! So you are saying that if a group of people create chaos as a result of some idiotic action ... then, that is reason enough to outlaw that action?
Yes. This is exactly what I am saying. Burning the Koran costs lives.

Burning American flag is dangerous. It should never be constitutional.
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Old 05-19-2014, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Yes. This is exactly what I believe. Freedom is never 100% free. Idiots have no rights to speak especially what he says cause innocent lives.
Then that is silly.

Innocent lives are not hurt by the free speech. They are hurt by the reaction to free speech. Thats a personal problem, not a problem with free speech
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Old 05-19-2014, 11:29 AM
 
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While it may make me angry to witness, individuals in this country, the USA, have the right to burn flags, religious books, etc. If you support our form of democracy you, we, support that right to burn.
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Old 05-19-2014, 11:31 AM
 
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Yes. This is exactly what I am saying. Burning the Koran costs lives.

Burning American flag is dangerous. It should never be constitutional.
lol .... so then it would just be a matter of rallying a few thousand people to create chaos and burn a few buildings to bully the US into changing laws I dislike?
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Old 05-19-2014, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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While it may make me angry to witness, individuals in this country, the USA, have the right to burn flags, religious books, etc. If you support our form of democracy you, we, support that right to burn.
well, freedom of speech is never free. Where do you draw the line is the question.

Freedom of one person is really other people's tolerance. If you believe freedom of speech should be 100% free, then that is your belief.

I believe freedom of speech is unattainable unless all men in their degree are capable of reason and moral responsibility.
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