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Other bills, like the bills extending unemployment insurance, were not explicitly intended to be stimulus measures, but Firey argues that they were in effect stimulus measures because they borrowed and spent money now, rather than redirecting money the government already has.
“Some of this legislation can have multiple intentions,”
Well, yes if you include spending that wasn't apart of the stimulus bill and add it to the stimulus bill I am sure you could say we spent 10trillion on stimulus.
Wow, math fail. It's not 47% of the population, or even the population that can work (including the employed). It's 47% of the people polled (1,500, good sample) of the 7% unemployed didn't disagree with the statement "I’ve completely given up on looking for a job."
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Do people actually read their links?
Wasn't that what they said, 47% of those surveyed in the poll, not the entire population.
(7 percent said they “agree completely,” 7 percent “agree a lot,” 15 percent “agree somewhat,” and 18 percent “agree a little.”)
7+7+15+18 = 47
Do you act argumentative, just to play the part of a disagreeable person?
They transfer to disability roles. The federal government spends more money each year on cash payments for disabled former workers than it spends on food stamps and welfare combined.
??? That usually requires months or years of applying and appealing, so what do they do in the meantime while they are unattached?
According the that dingbat, if we could just get 80% of the population on Food Stamps and unemployment compensation, we'd be a unstoppable economic super power jugernaut.
It is one thing for an elected official who is fighting to extend those benefits to correctly note that unemployment benefits can have a stimulative impact on the economy and say that spending is apart of the stimulus package since we always have some level of unemployment spending.
That's just dishonest. Again if you add up all the programs that weren't the stimulus onto the stimulus I guess you could say we had 10trillion in stimulus spending.
trillions? on jobs and stimulus programs? There was only one stimulus program and it was 787billion and 1/3 of that spending was tax cuts.
The stimulus helped to end the recession and put us on a path of slow growth. A larger stimulus might have given use escape velocity to really ramp up the economy.
Also remember conservatives had their own competing stimulus plans when the President and the Democratic party were proposing their plans.
So again conservatives used to believe in jobs programs and stimulus programs. Now they no longer do.
Yet and still the conservative solution of more tax cuts for rich people isn't really anything.
There is no guarantee that people will want the jobs that come with a stimulus program ie building bridges, repairing roads, etc. I can easily see all these jobs going to foreign labor (both legal and illegal).
??? That usually requires months or years of applying and appealing, so what do they do in the meantime while they are unattached?
Are you really so unaware of current trends in disability fillings, increases of the last few years? Disability is relatively easy to get and the abuses of this government program will astound you, or maybe not.
NPR, "Unfit for work, the startling rise of disability in America" by Chana Joffe-Walt. Go read it, grab all the statistics you want and then come back.
There is no guarantee that people will want the jobs that come with a stimulus program ie building bridges, repairing roads, etc. I can easily see all these jobs going to foreign labor (both legal and illegal).
Yes, the same conservative mantra, those people suck, they can't be helped so screw em. It is so predictable and boing.
47% of 7 percent is what we're talking about or slightly less than 3.5%.
That's not a lot of people. Also most of them are over the age of 50 while a significant number are married women with small children who's spouse works.
And when you add 7% and 3.5% you get the real unemployment rate of 10.5%.
I completed a I.T. contract position on Dec 2013. And have been looking for employment since then. But I'm still not giving up. It has happened to me twice before, which I was out of work for 1 year, then about 3 years later, I was out of work for almost a 1 and a half. And that was between 2008-2012 time period.
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