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Old 05-22-2014, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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and what do you consider to be far right wing?
I consider the people who are far right wing to be far right wing. The TP Republicans reflect the beliefs of the far right wing. If you are looking for specific details, I won't be giving you those because I have no interest in arguing what you think a far right winger is.

But this should give you a general idea what I am talking about.
Far-right politics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Radical right - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 05-22-2014, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Again, all this confusion of "humour" and "hate/fear".
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Old 05-22-2014, 12:22 PM
 
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Default You don't Get it!

Liberals Hate the Tea Party for being: Let the drums roll!
1. Smaller Gov.
2. Strong Defense.
3. Balance Budget.
4. Enforce Current Immigration Laws.
5. Enforce the Boarder
6 .Follow the US Constitution
7 .Lower Taxes
8. Against Obama Care
9. Term Limits.
10 Tort Reform

Just to start things Off

I sure our Socialist Liberals will throw a few names as well. what can the reader expect!
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Old 05-22-2014, 12:24 PM
 
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I consider the people who are far right wing to be far right wing. The TP Republicans reflect the beliefs of the far right wing. If you are looking for specific details, I won't be giving you those because I have no interest in arguing what you think a far right winger is.

But this should give you a general idea what I am talking about.
Far-right politics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Radical right - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
What makes the radical left that you belong to that much more superior? Communism?
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Old 05-22-2014, 12:25 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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i dont think im going to get an answer to my post so i will answer this way.

First off, i want to say i dont hate them, i just disagree with them.

Governance: I believe government should do for the people what they can not do for themselves and I believe Government can do good. the Tea Party believes that the government that governs least governs best.

its simply ideological.

Social/Cultural Issues: Whether it be gay marriage, drugs, sex, they seem to be on the opposite side of the spectrum form myself.

I dont see how people can advocate for the Constitution, but at the same im argue that their religion dictates that these things not be legal.

Disrespect for the President and his family : I could understand those in the Tea Party attacking the President. He is Left of Center, you are right of Center. It makes sense not to agree with him, but they have chosen to go further than that and disrespect the Office nd even further at times going after his wife and children.

Taxation: Lower taxes is what people want(not just the Tea Party, but all people), But it isnt what we as a nation need.

President Clinton rose taxes on the top 3 rates in 1993, and for 8 years, revenue grew and the gap between it and deficits shrunk each year to the point that we actually had budget surpluses( yes, i know a budget surplus and an actual surplus are not the same). in subsequent years, we lowered taxes and revenue only met expectations in 2 of the next 8 years.
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Old 05-22-2014, 12:27 PM
 
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i dont think im going to get an answer to my post so i will answer this way.

First off, i want to say i dont hate them, i just disagree with them.

Governance: I believe government should do for the people what they can not do for themselves and I believe Government can do good. the Tea Party believes that the government that governs least governs best.

its simply ideological.

Social/Cultural Issues: Whether it be gay marriage, drugs, sex, they seem to be on the opposite side of the spectrum form myself.

I dont see how people can advocate for the Constitution, but at the same im argue that their religion dictates that these things not be legal.

Disrespect for the President and his family : I could understand those in the Tea Party attacking the President. He is Left of Center, you are right of Center. It makes sense not to agree with him, but they have chosen to go further than that and disrespect the Office nd even further at times going after his wife and children.

Taxation: Lower taxes is what people want(not just the Tea Party, but all people), But it isnt what we as a nation need.

President Clinton rose taxes on the top 3 rates in 1993, and for 8 years, revenue grew and the gap between it and deficits shrunk each year to the point that we actually had budget surpluses( yes, i know a budget surplus and an actual surplus are not the same). in subsequent years, we lowered taxes and revenue only met expectations in 2 of the next 8 years.
Disrespect for the President and his family... Oh My....I see you forgot the Bush years.....
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Old 05-22-2014, 12:32 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Liberals Hate the Tea Party for being: Let the drums roll!
1. Smaller Gov.
Government small enough to drown is not government at all.

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2. Strong Defense.
Have yet to meet a Liberal against that

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3. Balance Budget.
Nothing wrong with that, its the means to which we get to a balanced budget that is the problem. See Kansas and Pennsylvania.

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4. Enforce Current Immigration Laws.
it is being enforced, You are arguing that we should allocate more resources to rounding up illegals than more important things.

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5. Enforce the Boarder
We already do.

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6 .Follow the US Constitution
hyperbole is beautiful.

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7 .Lower Taxes
tried that, it didnt work.

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8. Against Obama Care
Yes, this is true, we do dislike them because of that, but it isnt just because they are against it, it is also because they provide no alternative.

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9. Term Limits.
I used to be for term limits as well, then i realized i only wanted it for the politicians i was against. I may not like Eric Cantor, but the people of his district do. Who am I to tell them to not re-elect a man they deem worthy to represent them? The only term limits needed are the voters.



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10 Tort Reform
Thats a blanket term

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Old 05-22-2014, 12:34 PM
Status: "everybody getting reported now.." (set 22 days ago)
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Disrespect for the President and his family... Oh My....I see you forgot the Bush years.....
We have had this discussion before and I have already explained the flaw in your comment.

I did not disrespect President Bush. I do feel the same of those of the left who disrespected him as i do of those on the right who disrespect President Obama.

You on the other hand are fine with one but not the other.
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Old 05-22-2014, 12:39 PM
 
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List your reasons and facts to back them up.
You ask for "facts", but that right there is part of the problem. What the Tea Party considers "facts", I consider a fantasy. There is very little common ground for discourse.
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Old 05-22-2014, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Government small enough to drown is not government at all.


Have yet to meet a Liberal against that



Nothing wrong with that, its the means to which we get to a balanced budget that is the problem. See Kansas and Pennsylvania.



it is being enforced, You are arguing that we should allocate more resources to rounding up illegals than more important things.



We already do.



hyperbole is beautiful.



tried that, it didnt work.



Yes, this is true, we do dislike them because of that, but it isnt just because they are against it, it is also because they provide no alternative.



I used to be for term limits as well, then i realized i only wanted it for the politicians i was against. I may not like Eric Cantor, but the people of his district are. Who as I to tell them to not re-elect a man they deem worthy to represent them. The only term limits needed are the voters.





Thats a blanket term
Can't rep you again but great post. My feelings exactly.
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