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Old 05-24-2014, 02:06 PM
 
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Agreed. It's really a shame how little these racists value human life.
I do not have to put my nose in a garbage can to know it smells.

 
Old 05-24-2014, 02:51 PM
 
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I do not have to put my nose in a garbage can to know it smells.
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Old 05-24-2014, 03:23 PM
 
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It's a shame that a human died, but I wonder how many other young (and probably black) young men have died as a result of having terrible role models like Tupac to look up to ? Impressionable kids see someone like him and his messages of violence and rebellion as being the answer and they go down the same destructive path.

Until the black community starts getting more positive role models, like Martin Luther King and President Obama and his family, they are going to continue to find young black boys and girls dead in the streets because they think that is the way life should be. People like Tupac are a blight on the face of African American Culture everywhere, and I don't mourn his passing at all.

Don
 
Old 05-24-2014, 03:55 PM
 
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Until the black community starts getting more positive role models, like Martin Luther King and President Obama and his family, they are going to continue to find young black boys and girls dead in the streets because they think that is the way life should be.
Ah, there are millions of positive role models in the African American community and one need not rise to the once in a life time (or several life times) level of a Martin Luther King. But all of those role models mean very little in a culture that glorifies rank individualism, unbridled greed and the acquisition of wealth which contrary to popular misconception are the modi vivendi that underly the worst aspects of Hip Hop, which is nothing more than John Gault gone musically urban.

The Tupacs are not just products of the African American community but he was also shaped by the national culture as well. There is no magical glass bubble lying over the African American community that keeps the dominant culture from passing on its cultural pathogens.

 
Old 05-24-2014, 03:58 PM
 
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It's a shame that a human died, but I wonder how many other young (and probably black) young men have died as a result of having terrible role models like Tupac to look up to ? Impressionable kids see someone like him and his messages of violence and rebellion as being the answer and they go down the same destructive path.

Until the black community starts getting more positive role models, like Martin Luther King and President Obama and his family, they are going to continue to find young black boys and girls dead in the streets because they think that is the way life should be. People like Tupac are a blight on the face of African American Culture everywhere, and I don't mourn his passing at all.

Don
I don't completely disagree, but I don't completely agree either. To write him off as "a blight" is to make it a black-and-white issue, as if he was either all good or all bad. Granted, he was more bad than most people, but he wasn't 100% bad. Calling him a blight is going too far. He was a human being; a human being who chose the wrong path over and over again, but still a human being.

And if you listen to his music, you'll hear that the guy just had "it." Whatever "it" is, he had it. The guy just sounded like royalty when he rapped.
 
Old 05-24-2014, 04:07 PM
 
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Tupacs last words were "a nut, a nut, my kingdom for a nut".
 
Old 05-24-2014, 04:17 PM
 
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Agreed. It's really a shame how little these racists value human life.
Lucario, where was the racist remark?
 
Old 05-24-2014, 04:49 PM
 
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Ah, there are millions of positive role models in the African American community and one need not rise to the once in a life time (or several life times) level of a Martin Luther King. But all of those role models mean very little in a culture that glorifies rank individualism, unbridled greed and the acquisition of wealth which contrary to popular misconception are the modi vivendi that underly the worst aspects of Hip Hop, which is nothing more than John Gault gone musically urban.

The Tupacs are not just products of the African American community but he was also shaped by the national culture as well. There is no magical glass bubble lying over the African American community that keeps the dominant culture from passing on its cultural pathogens.

True. People choose their role models, kids have a wide variety from which to choose. Especially today -- they have a black president who I might not especially admire because I don't admire many democrats but he's successful all the same -- they could pick him to look up to.
 
Old 05-24-2014, 04:50 PM
 
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He was real to the bitter end.

Not many people can say that.
And now he's real dead. He promoted violence and it got him.
 
Old 05-24-2014, 04:56 PM
 
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A real thug which is words are typical of.
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