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Old 05-26-2014, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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oh the mean the changing America where eventually everything will be centralized to the federal government and a "one size fits all" mentality? you mean a "tolerant" america where you get bulled out of your job and lifely hood if you do not comply with the social collective thinking of society?

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I don't know, I sort of like the new and changing America. The America that's becoming more progressive, more tolerant. The America were the extremist right wing that has held America back is dying out. I like moving forward, and I resent moving backwards, so things are good with me and the changing country I live in.

 
Old 05-26-2014, 07:32 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Why doesn't the Federal Government FORCE school integration in blue states? Segregation is allowed more in blue states than red? Democrats are proud of that?
Maybe they SHOULD.
The REASON desegregation was FORCED on the deeply conservative South was because segregation was SO BAD there and it was pretty apparent those Southern states were not willing to do ANYTHING about it. It was wayyyyyyyy more pervasive in the South then than it is ANYWHERE today (including the North) - but if you think that desegretation should be forced on the North today, I suggest you join the ACLU and NAACP and push for it.

The fact is (as your link shows) resegregation as been the trend since the early 80s and the last significant federal aid for desegregation was repealed in 1981 by Ronald Reagan. The South didn't resegregate nearly as much as the North because Federal oversight was in place in the South to prevent that from happening. Since Reagan began the turnaround, NO President - Democratic or Republican - has really addressed the resegregation issue - and that includes Obama - which is one of the many issues true Liberals have with him (contrary to ignorant wingnut claims, Obama is not really all that Liberal). Segregation is just something that's been put on the "back burner" and largely forgotten and ignored so over time it's started increasing again (even in the South, but not as much there because of the Federal oversight I mentioned).

As I said, if you REALLY feel that segregation is an issue you want address, start sending money to the ACLU and NAACP for that cause - or if you REALLY want to push for forced desegregation of the North, consider joining the Socialist Party (I think that's on their radar).

NO ONE is "proud "of increasing segregation. They've just been ignoring it.

Ken
 
Old 05-26-2014, 07:33 AM
 
Location: College Hill
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What America do you live in?

Oppression of political opposition does not equate to tolerant. Tolerant of what?
No one except the extreme left is holding anyone hostage. Harry Reid is holding the Senate opposition party hostage. Bills go there to silently die in the womb.

Holder's new America looks like a 3rd world cabal, dictator and all.

Good luck with your new world and 'leaders' telling you lies and then treat you like children when they say 'we have to pass it to see what is in it".
I tire of the victimhood of the fading, increasingly irrelevant right. Uh, how many jobs bills have made it out of that playpen called the House of Representatives? Reid is doing what he needs to do to hold back the wacky ideas of the right -- they've done quite sufficient damage to America as it is.

Obama kept us out of what surely would have been a second Great Depression and he ended the war of lies in Iraq. Osama is dead and the auto industry is alive. We now have, as all advanced nations long have had, national health care. We call this progress.
 
Old 05-26-2014, 07:35 AM
 
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I tire of the victimhood of the fading, increasingly irrelevant right. Uh, how many jobs bills have made it out of that playpen called the House of Representatives? Reid is doing what he needs to do to hold back the wacky ideas of the right -- they've done quite sufficient damage to America as it is.

Obama kept us out of what surely would have been a second Great Depression and he ended the war of lies in Iraq. Osama is dead and the auto industry is alive. We now have, as all advanced nations long have had, national health care. We call this progress.
We have national heath care???

How did I miss that???
 
Old 05-26-2014, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I always wondered which direction we'd take..."1984" or "Brave New World".
Looks to me like they chose "Brave New World" which is ok by me because you can refuse the koolaid but not a gun in your face.
All empires decline and lose power. It's just a matter of when and how.
 
Old 05-26-2014, 07:47 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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I guess you think ALL blacks in politics are irrelevant including Obama, and the 43 members of the Congressional Black Caucus, Rangel, Clyburn, Conyers, Cummings, Jackson, Fudge,etc.

"You are a racist" as has been thrown at anyone who opposes Obama.
There HAS been PROGESS for minorities in politics. Why do you think Holder said: "Too Many' People 'Irrationally Fear the New America That Is Emerging'? Note "IS Emerging" rather than a "WILL Emerge" - indicating that change IS underway rather than change WILL be underway.
Reading comprehension is a useful skill. Maybe you should consider ACQUIRING IT.


There's been LOTS of progress in regards to minority representation in Congress - especially on the Democratic side - where for the 1st time more than half of the reps are either women or racial minorities. On the GOP side though there's been backsliding - with women and racial minorities representing just 12% of the seats (down from 14% in the lst Congress).

Ken

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Old 05-26-2014, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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There HAS been PROGESS for minorities in politics. Why do you think Holder said: "Too Many' People 'Irrationally Fear the New America That Is Emerging'? Note "IS Emerging" rather than a "WILL Emerge" - indicating that change IS underway rather than change WILL be underway.
Reading comprehension is a useful skill. Maybe you should consider ACQUIRING IT.


There's been LOTS of progress in regards to minority representation in Congress - especially on the Democratic side - where for the 1st time more than half of the reps are either women or racial minorities. On the GOP side though there's been backsliding - with women racial minorities representing just 12% of the seats (down from 14% in the lst Congress).

Ken
People like Sheila Jackson Lee though are too racist to be representing "the people".
She had some nasty racist comments regarding Obama's trip to Iowa regarding jobs.
Hispanics though are becoming the majority minority here and so far it seems they are more open to be representing all people, not just "their own" like many of the Blacks in Congress do.
 
Old 05-26-2014, 07:52 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Ah, low information voter. " he took office with a budget surplus and left his successor a nation with a skyrocketing deficit,"

There was NO surplus.
More ignorant wingnut nonsense.

"Q: During the Clinton administration was the federal budget balanced? Was the federal deficit erased?

A: Yes to both questions, whether you count Social Security or not.

...Clinton’s large budget surpluses also owe much to the Social Security tax on payrolls. Social Security taxes now bring in more than the cost of current benefits, and the "Social Security surplus" makes the total deficit or surplus figures look better than they would if Social Security wasn’t counted. But even if we remove Social Security from the equation, there was a surplus of $1.9 billion in fiscal 1999 and $86.4 billion in fiscal 2000. So any way you count it, the federal budget was balanced and the deficit was erased, if only for a while..."


The Budget and Deficit Under Clinton

Ken
 
Old 05-26-2014, 07:53 AM
 
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The New America? You mean the one where women are legally allowed to kill their own babies? You mean the one where marriage is allowed between the same sexes? You mean the one where one is called a racist for wanting our immigration laws respected and enforced? You mean the one where conservatives and conservative views are viewed as vile and they are demonized? You mean the one where multiculterism is embraced rather than encouraging common bonds and assimilation? The one where we find ourselves trillions in debt and millions of Americans are out of work? That New America? No thanks, I'll pass.
 
Old 05-26-2014, 07:54 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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People like Sheila Jackson though are too racist to be representing "the people".
Hispanics though are becoming the majority minority here and so far it seems they are more open to be representing all people, not just "their own" like many of the Blacks in Congress do.
I don't know that I would say that "many of the Blacks" in Congress do that. I'm sure SOME do - just as SOME White reps feel they are only representing "their own".

Ken
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