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Old 05-26-2014, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I'm still shocked that so many left California and moved to Texas.
Two politically extreme states yet they came and came and came and are still coming !
My partner moved from CA to NV, as a stop gap to moving his entire family to TX. I considered it, but I have 6 generations of family in AZ, so that's where I'm heading.

Think of it this way. At the rate things are going, all the Cali conservatives will be exchanged out for east coast liberals and wack-a-mole progressives. They'll be living the dream of high taxes, suppressive and corrupt government, with great weather.

It'll be a Socialist nervana that'll eventually drag down the entire economy of the US when they need bailing out.
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Old 05-26-2014, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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My partner moved from CA to NV, as a stop gap to moving his entire family to TX. I considered it, but I have 6 generations of family in AZ, so that's where I'm heading.

Think of it this way. At the rate things are going, all the Cali conservatives will be exchanged out for east coast liberals and wack-a-mole progressives. They'll be living the dream of high taxes, suppressive and corrupt government, with great weather.

It'll be a Socialist nervana that'll eventually drag down the entire economy of the US when they need bailing out.
Doubt it, California has the highest GDP in the country.

So if California is the Socialist "nervana," does that make Texas the Conservative "nervana?"
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Old 05-26-2014, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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-- the US isn't like Denmark where people actually care about each other.
Now that gets the "most amusing post" award.
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Old 05-26-2014, 05:42 PM
 
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Doubt it, California has the highest GDP in the country.

So if California is the Socialist "nervana," does that make Texas the Conservative "nervana?"

You do realize California has huge pockets of unemployment and high taxes coupled with "fees"? I'm not moving to Texas but I can't wait to leave this place.
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Old 05-26-2014, 05:43 PM
 
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It wouldn't surprise me if this were true-- the US isn't like Denmark where people actually care about each other.
Taxation only works as it should if it's universal.
Yet --- the USA is bringing in more impoverished immigrants by far than is Denmark. And more people have left Denmark to live in the USA than people have left the USA to live in Denmark.
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Old 05-26-2014, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Well google articles show that CA is losing jobs while Texas is gaining jobs.
CA has lost jobs for 5 straight months.


Texas Gains 30,000 Jobs in January—California LOSES 31,000 Jobs in February
False. Job creation in California has been well above the national average since the worst days of the Great Recession.

Los Angeles County alone has added 75,000 nonfarm jobs in the last three months. Most states, even large ones like Florida, would be quite pleased with that type of job growth.
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Old 05-26-2014, 05:48 PM
 
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You know they will still vote liberal right? Basically you are cheering for conservative states to become more liberal.
I'm not cheering it --- I'm pointing out the huge hypocrisy of liberals who come to Texas instead of staying in or moving to states where they can pay higher taxes. I know they're not smart enough to vote better.
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Old 05-26-2014, 05:48 PM
 
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False. Job creation in California has been well above the national average since the worst days of the Great Recession.

Los Angeles County alone has added 75,000 nonfarm jobs in the last three months. Most states, even large ones like Florida, would be quite pleased with that type of job growth.

California is not just L.A. There is massive unemployment here.
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Old 05-26-2014, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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When there is no one left to tax and State governments go deeper in debt, guess what is going to happen to all the people left in the States, with income tax.
I've been in the workforce for 20 years. I've moved just under 20 times covering 5 states (many "mini moves") from the Atlantic to the Pacific.

The government, regardless of level, has never forced me out of a location by its actions. That's because every single entity that doesn't put food on my table or clothes on my back is my enemy. That's the government, Sears, any poster reading this, my employer, etc. It's called personal responsibility.

I'm not a disorientated lazy crybaby mainstream conservative who reaped the benefits of the early boom periods of a state /region (most notably California) only to simply sit and whine when the government outsmarted them as folks poured in.

Like I said, there are two groups who make up this delusional dynamic: the old mainstream cons who think 1963 should have been frozen in time & the new young generation of college grads who think moving to say a Florida or Texas is the answer to their desire to not pay high taxes and live in their McMansions. News flash: young folks want services. They want public transportation, the arts, parks, and believe government is needd for such matters (thanks to those colleges teaching them so well -note sarcasm). In short, Texas and Florida are California in 20-30 years. Then we'll have to hear these folks whine about how the government mismanaged their life so now they have to move to Nebraska.

It's so freaking predictable and apparent it drives me crazy.

And I hate to simply mention just mainstream cons cuz mainstream libs are cancers too. I don't play the Red vs Blue game. It's just that on this issue it drives me bonkers to watch a group that talks about personal responsibility so much (mainstream cons) cry so loudly about how the government messed up their city/state with taxes and mismanaged infrastructure.

It's the government!!!! Everything they touch turns to crap. Stay ahead of their game folks. Don't live your life in one of the artificial camps (Dem, Repub) cuz they aren't serving your interests anyway.

I can't think of anything that makes someone look dumber as to say "government policies forced me from my home/was the deciding factor on where I moved".
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Old 05-26-2014, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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California is not just L.A. There is massive unemployment here.
LA County's U3 rate is higher than the state as a whole. The point is that job creation, bolstered largely by Northern California, has been quite robust for some time now, and now it's the beleaguered Southern California region that is setting the pace. California isn't losing jobs by any stretch.
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