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The main problem OWS had was that they were being used to try to portray the republicans as being the only ones siding with the bankers (it was both parties). Once they'd become more embarassing than useful...they got the boot.
The other big problem was that half the people hanging out around the OWS people were fakes that were just there for drugs and partying. If you follow the peace-n-love movement history, this is the same thing that happened to them.
In short, the OWS had some great points, great ideas and HORRIBLE brand control and execution. That's what happens when you lack focus and leadership.
Actually, the Corporate Media portrayed OWS as being anti-Republican-there was little truth to that. OWS protesters more than most, knew about Corporate/Banking collusion and control within our political system. Most protesters were anarchists if anything-there were really no political labels but there was a Green Party table, Libertarian, etc. and a free library with a wealth of information. I agree with some of your other points though.
It is easy to stifle conversation when you just turn every issue into a vague two sided arguement. The same could be said about the Tea Party being represented in the Corporate Media as old die-hard Republicans that hate Democrats and welfare.
Divide and distract is the mantra and Americans fall for it time and time again.
There was also the issue of homeless and mentally ill patients being bussed into OWS sites to cause friction/disturbances and even the FBI considering assasinating an OWS leader in Houston.
I've heard reports that the incident was not as cut and dry and some of you make it sound.
Those reports say that it did not go down as just a simple resisting arrest incident. Witnesses have stated that the arresting officer grabbed her from behind and in so doing he grabbed one of her breasts (I haven't heard anyone state that it was done on purpose, so I am assuming it was accidental). Thinking she was being assaulted, the young lady threw an elbow blindly in the direction of her attacker and caught the officer in the eye.
If that's what really happened, then this was a misunderstanding and the young lady should not have been charged.
Actually, the Corporate Media portrayed OWS as being anti-Republican-there was little truth to that. Most protesters were anarchists if anything-there were really no political labels but there was a Green Party table, Libertarian, etc. and a free library with a wealth of information. I agree with some of your other points though.
It is easy to stifle conversation when you just turn every issue into a vague two sided arguement. The same could be said about the Tea Party being represented in the Corporate Media as old die-hard Republicans that hate Democrats and welfare.
Divide and distract is the mantra and Americans fall for it time and time again.
There was also the issue of homeless and mentally ill patients being bussed into OWS sites to cause friction/disturbances.
OWS turned itself into a humane effort with making sure everyone had food, subway passes, and other cultural amenities like libraries with free books. Then they got into the habitat for humanity gig with renovating homes with that donated money.
OWS was giving it all away and everyone and their brother got in line to take.
I read the NY OWS forums/meeting minutes and they were all over the place and lost their focus.
They were going back and forth about using the donation money to buy a farm to feed people.
The main problem OWS had was that they were being used to try to portray the republicans as being the only ones siding with the bankers (it was both parties). Once they'd become more embarassing than useful...they got the boot.
The other big problem was that half the people hanging out around the OWS people were fakes that were just there for drugs and partying. If you follow the peace-n-love movement history, this is the same thing that happened to them.
In short, the OWS had some great points, great ideas and HORRIBLE brand control and execution. That's what happens when you lack focus and leadership.
And it wasn't at all about dems vs. repubs it was people who were pissed off about the people who caused the crash being allowed to walk away without any punishment, and to a lesser degree the general inequalities present in the system.
Just because some right wing idiots went around with cameras making manipulative youtube videos doesn't mean they were all deluded... but I agree, it did break apart because it was too open to a variety of perspectives and the message became unclear.
OWS turned itself into a humane effort with making sure everyone had food, subway passes, and other cultural amenities like libraries with free books. Then they got into the habitat for humanity gig with renovating homes with that donated money.
OWS was giving it all away and everyone and their brother got in line to take.
I read the NY OWS forums/meeting minutes and they were all over the place and lost their focus.
They were going back and forth about using the donation money to buy a farm to feed people.
Yes, there were food banks for the homeless which was fine, but issues arose when the NYPD began encouraging the mentally ill, drug addicts and drunks to head to Zuccotti Park and camp there. NYPD has not responded to these allegations.
Why do you condone hitting a cop? Try it on your property, you'll go to jail.
I condone hitting a cop because I've seen a movie of people sitting quietly, letting themselves be pepper-sprayed by a cop. Why were these people not wearing goggles? Why were they not carrying bearspray of their own? What a pathetic display that was.
OWS turned itself into a humane effort with making sure everyone had food, subway passes, and other cultural amenities like libraries with free books. Then they got into the habitat for humanity gig with renovating homes with that donated money.
OWS was giving it all away and everyone and their brother got in line to take.
I read the NY OWS forums/meeting minutes and they were all over the place and lost their focus.
They were going back and forth about using the donation money to buy a farm to feed people.
Once the GSA started having meetings around the clock, dissent started to happen. They were none to happy about all the homeless people showing up begging for food. Plus at LA OWS they had a little scuffle over weed. There was an article in the post about cooks complaining about working 18 hours cooking for professional homeless people. They weren't all that humane.
How many rapes and violent assaults occured at OWS rallies compared to racist homophobic racist T.E.A. party rallies?
Once the GSA started having meetings around the clock, dissent started to happen. They were none to happy about all the homeless people showing up begging for food. Plus at LA OWS they had a little scuffle over weed. There was an article in the post about cooks complaining about working 18 hours cooking for professional homeless people. They weren't all that humane.
How many rapes and violent assaults occured at OWS rallies compared to racist homophobic racist T.E.A. party rallies?
Right here is the problem. The core argument of both groups was the same. Unfortunately so many complained and attacked one side or the other even though the core complaint was the same.
My dissapointment was how both sides allowed the media to separate them. Come together, achieve your core goals and then compromise on your differences.
Right here is the problem. The core argument of both groups was the same. Unfortunately so many complained and attacked one side or the other even though the core complaint was the same.
My dissapointment was how both sides allowed the media to separate them. Come together, achieve your core goals and then compromise on your differences.
The whole thing was a media creation. That's what these little OWS kids missed (and still do). They weren't the 99%, they were the 98%. The other 1% was the media that co-opted and defined their "movement" for them.
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