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Old 05-31-2014, 07:06 AM
 
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The elderly that have owed their homes for decades, that are now retired and on a fixed income.

Michigan has a property tax deferral program for poor homeowners - the taxes are deferred until the homeowner vacates the property e.g. through death or moving, say, to Florida or to a nursing home. So poor homeowners never have to lose their home to taxes. Poor renters get the double whammy of ungatz; not only is there no deferral available, their homes are taxed one-third to one-half higher than equivalent owner-occupied homes. Which means that not only are renters fair game to be taxed out of their homes, they are sitting ducks to be taxed out of their homes harder and faster.
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Old 05-31-2014, 07:08 AM
 
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Michigan has a property tax deferral program for poor homeowners - the taxes are deferred until the homeowner vacates the property e.g. through death or moving, say, to Florida or to a nursing home. So poor homeowners never have to lose their home to taxes. Poor renters get the double whammy of ungatz; not only is there no deferral available, their homes are taxed one-third to one-half higher than equivalent owner-occupied homes. Which means that not only are renters fair game to be taxed out of their homes, they are sitting ducks to be taxed out of their homes harder and faster.
Renters have made no investment and own no homes.....they rent.
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Old 05-31-2014, 07:11 AM
 
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We do have land where we live....100 acres of mostly woods.....our buildings for the business is not on this land.

Our house is nice.....but, a remodeled old farm house.

Our township has very low taxes......no fire department.

We claim "0" for income.....the figure they use is the bottom line on your 1040.

The entire parcel of land - 100 acres - is all part of your homestead? And that ZERO, What Would Romney Say? I was guessing you're levied there about 30 mills was I close?
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Old 05-31-2014, 07:12 AM
 
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Renters have made no investment and own no homes.....they rent.

Got vertical equity?
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Old 05-31-2014, 07:12 AM
 
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The entire parcel of land - 100 acres - is all part of your homestead? And that ZERO, What Would Romney Say? I was guessing you're levied there about 30 mills was I close?
I would have to look....I do not know.
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Old 05-31-2014, 07:16 AM
 
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Got vertical equity?
I am not sure of your question.

Would a renter have vertical equity on a rental home.....no....they have no investment.
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Old 05-31-2014, 07:17 AM
 
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I have told you this over and over.....you have to get your taxable income down.....IMO...it is the only way to get ahead now.

There are only two ways of which I am aware:

1) Buy and manage rental property.

2) Start a cash business (where customers don't use plastic or checks - a pinball arcade is a good example)
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Old 05-31-2014, 07:19 AM
 
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There are only two ways of which I am aware:

1) Buy and manage rental property.

2) Start a cash business (where customers don't use plastic or checks - a pinball arcade is a good example)
Look into things farther.
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Old 05-31-2014, 07:22 AM
 
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I am not sure of your question.

Would a renter have vertical equity on a rental home.....no....they have no investment.

One could argue that an equity issue exists to the extent involuntary renters are subject to higher taxes than voluntary homeowners of greater income. Renters make an (often increasing) every month, with ROI = zero.
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Old 05-31-2014, 07:26 AM
 
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One could argue that an equity issue exists to the extent involuntary renters are subject to higher taxes than voluntary homeowners of greater income. Renters make an (often increasing) every month, with ROI = zero.
What is an involuntary renter??
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