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Old 06-04-2014, 09:52 AM
 
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From what I understand, the bakery was happy to serve gay people and make cakes and cookies and the like for anyone and everyone. The owner is just opposed to gay marriage and he did not wish to be a participant in it by making the cake because it goes against his beliefs. So really, that was the only service that he refused to do, making wedding cakes for gay weddings. He was not turning away gay people in masse though. I was surprised by how the judge ruled on this.
It wouldn't be a problem if he didn't make wedding cakes for anyone or hadn't refused to make a wedding cake because the customers were gay. In the eyes of the Colorado law his refusal to make a cake for a gay wedding is no different than if he had refused to make a cake for a Baptist wedding.

 
Old 06-04-2014, 09:55 AM
 
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We are talking about a Wedding cake that the owner opposes gay marriage. They are free to buy any other baked goods.

How many bakeries are in that city that is more gay friendly?
How do I know unless there is a sign out front?
 
Old 06-04-2014, 09:56 AM
 
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It wouldn't be a problem if he didn't make wedding cakes for anyone or hadn't refused to make a wedding cake because the customers were gay. In the eyes of the Colorado law his refusal to make a cake for a gay wedding is no different than if he had refused to make a cake for a Baptist wedding.
Think the government would send you to re-education classes for that?
 
Old 06-04-2014, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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OMG! A person who willingly opened a business and chose to sell products to the general public has to follow the same laws of the state that all other business owners have to follow. What is the world coming to?
 
Old 06-04-2014, 10:28 AM
 
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How do I know unless there is a sign out front?
Your chances of walking into a bakery that will be happy to make your cake is very much higher than finding one who will resist, at least in most areas. It is seldom an issue. Now with these laws being upheld, it should be fine.
 
Old 06-04-2014, 10:43 AM
 
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It wouldn't be a problem if he didn't make wedding cakes for anyone or hadn't refused to make a wedding cake because the customers were gay. In the eyes of the Colorado law his refusal to make a cake for a gay wedding is no different than if he had refused to make a cake for a Baptist wedding.
I understand how the court ruled. I just don't agree with the decision. The bakery owner is a man who opposes gay marriage. I'm assuming that homosexuality goes against his religious beliefs. I do believe that he has the right to refuse to participate in something that goes against his religious beliefs. If I was gay and wanted to get married, I would choose to have my cake made by a shop who does not believe homosexuality is a sin. I think that the court's decision was wrong in this case.
 
Old 06-04-2014, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Your chances of walking into a bakery that will be happy to make your cake is very much higher than finding one who will resist, at least in most areas. It is seldom an issue. Now with these laws being upheld, it should be fine.
Evidently, it won't be fine. There is going to be a very good chance my cake will have Ex-Lax, poison, fecal matter, salt or urine in it. Apparently, some don't like these laws that will be upheld, and will express it by being right-wing dicks.

Sick puppies.
 
Old 06-04-2014, 10:51 AM
 
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Evidently, it won't be fine. There is going to be a very good chance my cake will have Ex-Lax, poison, fecal matter, salt or urine in it. Apparently, some don't like these laws that will be upheld, and will express it by being right-wing dicks.

Sick puppies.
Bizarre train of thought.
 
Old 06-04-2014, 10:53 AM
 
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I'd go to jail before the government ever forced me to do any of this nonsense. He wouldn't be forced to do a Nazi/Hitler cake so to hell with giving him to make a homo themed cake.
 
Old 06-04-2014, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Bizarre train of thought.
You clearly haven't read the entire thread.
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