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Pres. Obama is calling for $10.10 minimum wage, whereas Seattle socialists (and presumably others to follow) have enacted a $15 minimum wage. That's just about a 50% difference. This is prima fascie evidence that these numbers are simply being pulled out of peoples' posteriors.
Suppose Obama proposed a return to the 55 mph national speed limit to save energy, and others said that no, we need to impose a 36 mph limit (36+50%=55). Would you conclude that either number was based on engineering principles, or figure that one or the other, or both, were numbers just pulled out of the air?
Pres. Obama is calling for $10.10 minimum wage, whereas Seattle socialists (and presumably others to follow) have enacted a $15 minimum wage. That's just about a 50% difference. This is prima fascie evidence that these numbers are simply being pulled out of peoples' posteriors.
Suppose Obama proposed a return to the 55 mph national speed limit to save energy, and others said that no, we need to impose a 36 mph limit (36+50%=55). Would you conclude that either number was based on engineering principles, or figure that one or the other, or both, were numbers just pulled out of the air?
That sounds about right, the country should be about $10 for minimum wage and more expensive areas should be higher than that.
Why not just do away with it all together? But, that will never happen so I just don't go to places that become too expensive. So sure, let the "lets do something" crowd make it 15-20 bucks an hour and see more small business go under, more empty store fronts, few entry level jobs ...bring it on!
Why not just do away with it all together? But, that will never happen so I just don't go to places that become too expensive. So sure, let the "lets do something" crowd make it 15-20 bucks an hour and see more small business go under, more empty store fronts, few entry level jobs ...bring it on!
Why because then business can pay whatever they want they can pay $2 hour if they want. You are right it should not be $15-20 but $9-10 is a lot more manageable for business to start.
Why because then business can pay whatever they want they can pay $2 hour if they want. You are right it should not be $15-20 but $9-10 is a lot more manageable for business to start.
Without an artifically-imposed minimum wage, employers would actually pay what their employees are worth. That's the way it should be.
Without an artifically-imposed minimum wage, employers would actually pay what their employees are worth. That's the way it should be.
Ah yes, people should be paid the least amount possible, which you are basically saying you think it is okay for people to be paid as little as a dollar a day. What is a cashier worth?
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Ah yes, people should be paid the least amount possible, which you are basically saying you think it is okay for people to be paid as little as a dollar a day. What is a cashier worth?
I would say that a cashier is not worth much at all, in fact when I go to the supermarket or Home Depot I always use the self-check to avoid their plastic, rehearsed niceties. We went out to a nice dinner tonight at good restaurant that costs us about $50 for two, and they now have two new features on their smartphone app to save their staff even more time/work. They offer a $5 discount if you pre-order by smartphone, or if you pay by smartphone from the table so the waitstaff don't have to bring the bill, go ring it up and return with the receipt. We took advantage of the latter. We still gave a generous (25%) tip because the service was great, but let's face it, technology is making people's work easier and they don't need as many, that drives down their value (salaries).
Ah yes, people should be paid the least amount possible, which you are basically saying you think it is okay for people to be paid as little as a dollar a day. What is a cashier worth?
A cashier is worth no more than his or her replacement...
A cashier is worth no more than his or her replacement...
Ahhhhhh, technology.
And how much is the technology worth? Oh and that isn't the best way to figure out someone's worth because you are assuming the technology wouldn't be used if the value of an employee was low enough. That would be an incorrect assumption, as technology advances, we as society will use that technology regardless of the worth of an employee.
And how much is the technology worth? Oh and that isn't the best way to figure out someone's worth because you are assuming the technology wouldn't be used if the value of an employee was low enough. That would be an incorrect assumption, as technology advances, we as society will use that technology regardless of the worth of an employee.
Yup, once technology does it better then you ever can for less then the cost of a human beings survival....thats it. done. You are replaced.
And the kind of technology thats being rapidly created will do this in ever increasing numbers. LOL, I kinda hope a Rep president is the next one so that we can be in awe at the ever increasing unemployment. And the massive debate about what to do.
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