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Old 06-04-2014, 09:50 AM
 
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Why would anyone like America? We are greedy and egotistical. We also have the most embarassing display of (conservative) politics in the developed world.
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Old 06-04-2014, 09:51 AM
 
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The US is entering the end stage of capitalism and will disintegrate into chaos unless we change our ways and redistribute wealth back to the dying middle class.
So dramatic. Just get rid of the IRS and have a Nat'l sales tax
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Old 06-04-2014, 09:53 AM
 
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These are great ideas, but to be honest they will have no impact until you cut the head off of the snake. Publicly funded elections, strict term limits, zero lobbying, zero campaign contributions. Make career politicians and corporate influence in elections a thing of the past.
The answer to corruption in government is never one where we restrict the rights of others. Its none of your business how I spend my money. If you want to continue to vote for what you know to be the lesser of two evils blame yourself not me because I decide to give money to someone I see as not evil.
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Old 06-04-2014, 10:24 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Why would anyone like America? We are greedy and egotistical. We also have the most embarassing display of (conservative) politics in the developed world.
Well... as I've been told a thousand times by folks with similar political leanings as yours, goodbye. Perhaps Somalia? That's a favorite suggestion that I get often.

Yes, Somalia seems to be the magic slam when told to leave the country. It needs to have its own label similar to bringing up Hitler all the time (there is a name for that on Wikipedia as pointed out to me not long ago, but I don't remember the term). How about Somaliacentrism?
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Old 06-04-2014, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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The answer to corruption in government is never one where we restrict the rights of others. Its none of your business how I spend my money. If you want to continue to vote for what you know to be the lesser of two evils blame yourself not me because I decide to give money to someone I see as not evil.
How do you think the idea of the two evils got started? Corporations own both parties. But feel free to continue to donate your drop in the bucket. Won't make any difference.
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Old 06-04-2014, 10:58 AM
 
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Wrong...we simply need to quit giving it to the upper classes. The middle and lower classes will continue to fall further and further behind as long as wall street gets billions while the lower levels get and extra $20 a week.
Yeah this is basically it.
Just get more money flowing away from the monster investment banks and to main st.

It is possible to do without stealing from what they already have.
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Old 06-04-2014, 11:07 AM
 
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How do you think the idea of the two evils got started? Corporations own both parties. But feel free to continue to donate your drop in the bucket. Won't make any difference.
Not because of me so don't go telling me what I can or can't do. Your time might be better spent in front of a mirror.

I will not vote for the lesser of two evils.
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Old 06-04-2014, 11:13 AM
 
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The great nations thru out history have never run or paid attention to popularity polls. Once Europe laughed at Germany when they did reforms in the 1990's ;now they are said to not be sharing wealth with other Europeans nations altho they are financiers of saving many of the countries. Envy doesn't lead to much of anywhere as always.
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Old 06-04-2014, 11:15 AM
 
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In industry, Germany treats and recognizes it's employee's not much different then N/A in the earlier decades.

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Old 06-04-2014, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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BBC News - Russian image has deteriorated - BBC World Service poll



Now, isn't that a massive turnaround considering the position Germany was in 70 years ago?
Maybe we should take their example Lets eradicate a whole class of people, start a war and get the crap blown out of us and then let someone else pay to rebuild the country? Worked for the Krauts right?
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