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That's really an informative article! Thanks for posting it. I never would have guessed that so many military personnel become deserters. Great explanation of the differences between AWOL and desertion, too.
"AWOL: Any soldier who has taken unauthorized leave from their training or duty station
Deserter: On 31st day of AWOL, a soldier is "dropped from the rolls" and administratively marked as a deserter"
He was suppose to be at his lookout post the next morning.
He was nowhere to be found, and had left behind all his military stuff.
If you are using the analogy Mother Jones uses, he didn't just skip a class,
he dropped out of school
But, apparently you can’t have desertion without intent.
So when they question him (with counsel of course) is he going to say he simply didn't believe
in the war anymore, or is he going to use this excuse:
“We think he probably was high after smoking hashish,” Ibrahim Manikhel, the district’s intelligence chief, told the Washignton Post.
“Why would an American want to find the Taliban?”
Yep. Getting high is right up there with the Twinkie defense
"The military investigation was broader than a criminal inquiry, this official said, and it didn’t formally accuse Bergdahl of desertion."
You're trying hard to make an official 'deserter' label come from the military, but it didn't happen.
Your opinion [and mine] is that he didn't intend to return, making him a deserter. Though my guess is many closer to the hidden facts agree with our opinion, he was technically AWOL.
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Interesting that the conservative god Charles Krauthammer, despite his distaste for Obama, is supporting Obama's decision while all the whiners and haters call for Obama's impeachment.
Couple questions for recent military...specifically special ops...The media has raved about how clean and efficient that extraction/transfer transpired...I didn't quite see it that way: in review of that video as released...:
1. That video as released served for nothing more than propaganda...did we not have video capability during same exchange? If so...why no release?
2. That pick-up point was a valley...that team to include the Black Hawk was nothing more than a sitting duck:.....In a valley...broad daylight...surrounded by hostile fire power:
3. That extraction team never searched Berdahl until almost next to the bird....if he had been wired...everyone would have died:
Under the circumstances, once back in US control, it would have seemed prudent to have Berdahl...face down, and stripped, and dropping the rags.....well prior to ever being escorted back to BH....
3. It has been said...the extraction team was "at the ready"....it's hard to see what fire power was on board...or overhead...but I thought that exchange apparent less than "at the ready"....
4. Those guys pulled to complete that extraction either have balls bigger than elephants...or knew a lot more than has been discussed...they were sitting ducks...!
Anyone else view that extraction with a slanted eye...or is it me ? Time on the "x" was minimal...however they were in a very hot zone !
That entire operation looks like it was "made for TV"....there were much safer ways to successfully accomplish that mission..I know that...for a fact !
I think this feed from "Bob" about best sums up what is wrong with the deranged elements of the country. People manipulated and deluded by hate and fear. This has been a frequent topic of a few articles (//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...-fox-news.html) in the past, but hasn't been shown as concisely as this one twitter feed.
It is even seen by other parts of the GOP as the fringe takes over (//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...-i-joined.html) from the moderates that are labeled RINO's and cast out. They are moving from a party that represented a different view, to the fringes of America. They are becoming the new Know Nothings and Birchers for the modern age, and losing relevance by denying reality itself.
It's a pretty dramatic story ECW, people are going to react dramatically. You apparently disagree?
It's one of the worst cases of character assassination that I've ever seen.
They totally ignore the fact that he's not a deserter, and there's not a lick of evidence proving that he is
Just a few short years ago, they were screaming all over the place about how Obama wasn't doing all to get him back.
Obama gets him back, and now that's not good enough either. I guess we were supposed to give him a psych eval before agreeing to take him back. SMH
And worse, they're complaining that he was exchanged for terrorists...another lie.
Not only are the Taliban NOT terrorists, but the men we released in exchange haven't been convicted of anything. No one had ever heard of these guys until we released them.
The beauty of it all is that just like every other scandal they make up, this one will prove to be just as unfruitful as the others.
I too feel like I've gotten whiplash, from watching how an oddball soldier became a hero to beat Obama over the head with and then became a disaster to beat Obama over the head with.
I'm doing my best to be open-minded about those who are reacting differently than I am, but really, "beating Obama over the head" does seem to be the common denominator.
Couple questions for recent military...specifically special ops...The media has raved about how clean and efficient that extraction/transfer transpired...I didn't quite see it that way: in review of that video as released...:
1. That video as released served for nothing more than propaganda...did we not have video capability during same exchange? If so...why no release?
2. That pick-up point was a valley...that team to include the Black Hawk was nothing more than a sitting duck:.....In a valley...broad daylight...surrounded by hostile fire power:
3. That extraction team never searched Berdahl until almost next to the bird....if he had been wired...everyone would have died:
Under the circumstances, once back in US control, it would have seemed prudent to have Berdahl...face down, and stripped, and dropping the rags.....well prior to ever being escorted back to BH....
3. It has been said...the extraction team was "at the ready"....it's hard to see what fire power was on board...or overhead...but I thought that exchange apparent less than "at the ready"....
4. Those guys pulled to complete that extraction either have balls bigger than elephants...or knew a lot more than has been discussed...they were sitting ducks...!
Anyone else view that extraction with a slanted eye...or is it me ? Time on the "x" was minimal...however they were in a very hot zone !
That entire operation looks like it was "made for TV"....there were much safer ways to successfully accomplish that mission..I know that...for a fact !
I sensed that too..especially letting him get that close with no check.
The terrorists are known for their human bombs.
As am I. That is nothing but a losing proposition for our troops. Many of them seem to realize that, as well. That's why this could be the tipping point for those who serve in the military.
Awakened a sleeping giant? Perhaps...
In 2 weeks the dems will whine it's just another phony scandal trying to dismiss it like every time we have seen
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