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If these men were charged with these crimes, you might be able to make an argument about International law. However, accusations are not charges, and while some of the accusations are heinous, fact is they weren't charged so tthe violation of International law doesn't really apply.
If anything this should bring back the debate of charging the Terrorists/Enemy Combatant that we have in custody rather than letting them stay without any charges. Whether that be the U.S charging them or bringing them to the International Court. The hold them basically forever concept that we have had with some (some have been charged and found guilty) is a mistake now, and has been for the approximately 12 years it has been implemented.
The International Courts are more than capable of both investigating and charging individuals themselves, all the US would have to do is hand them over from Guantanamo, which isn't even covered by US Constitutional Laws.
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It matters not what specific section we believe he broke. That is a strawman. You know she has said this already but that is the question, did she make the claim, not what anyone else claims and why.
"It comes to us with some surprise and dismay that the transfers went ahead with no consultation, totally not following law," Feinstein told reporters following a closed door meeting.
The International Courts are more than capable of both investigating and charging individuals themselves, all the US would have to do is hand them over from Guantanamo, which isn't even covered by US Constitutional Laws.
Maybe because we are perfectly capable. I'll ask again but I don't expect you to answer.
Accused, accused, accused. Richard Jewell was accused of terrorism.
Of course there accused, a person is accused until they are tried, which is what should have happened instead of letting them go.
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You are assuming there is any and again, if there is why did two administrations refuse to bring charges?
And you are assuming there is no evidence. They evidence should have been examined by experts in Genocide at the Hague and they should have been investigated by the International Court who could have decided if they had a case to answer for.
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Our government wasn't democratically recognized in 1776 either. Pakistan, Syria, etc etc etc are responsible for the same kind of actions. China is responsible for the same. When do we attack?
We are capable. We didn't do it. Why not?
The Taliban were linked to terrorist groups, and were an awful regime, which was why the UN allowed for a Mandate for transition to an elected democracy where women and other groups were not oppressed and abused, and I see nothing wrong with that.
What would be ironic is if there is another terrorist attack against the US and in turns out one of these released individuals is in some way responsible, indeed for all the US nows they could have just released the next Osama Bin Laden.
Indeed in a rare public statement on Sunday, Afghan Taliban leader Mullah Mohammad Omar described the exchange as a "big victory".
Of course there accused, a person is accused until they are tried, which is what should have happened instead of letting them go.
And you are assuming there is no evidence. They evidence should have been examined by experts in Genocide at the Hague and they should have been investigated by the International Court who could have decided if they had a case to answer for.
The Taliban were linked to terrorist groups, and were an awful regime, which was why the UN allowed for a Mandate for transition to an elected democracy where women and other groups were not oppressed and abused, and I see nothing wrong with that.
What would be ironic is if there is another terrorist attack against the US and in turns out one of these released individuals is in some way responsible, indeed for all the US nows they could have just released the next Osama Bin Laden.
Indeed in a rare public statement on Sunday, Afghan Taliban leader Mullah Mohammad Omar described the exchange as a "big victory".
Fact of the matter is evidence is key. If we had the evidence against them, they should have been tried either in U.S Court or International Court. We have done this in other cases
The issue becomes, what do we do when we have accusations against someone, believe they are guilty, but don't have enough evidence to bring up charges against them.
We have many we have held going back to 2002 that have been held and accused of terrorism, but not charged with anything. Is it beliveing they are guilty, but not having the evidence to charge them? Or is it something else? Who knows, but fact is if we have evidence charge them, if not well then what?
You seem intent on trying to justify the unjustifiable, some of these men committed mass genocide of Shia civilians and if anything they should be before the international courts in the Hague and not being released by the US.
The US has made a laughing stock of itself and then next time the US demands someone be tried for War Crimes or International Crimes the whole world is going to collectively fall about laughing.
Make up your mind. How can there be war crimes, when you argue there is no war?
Fact of the manner is you refuse to answer my question.
I think you misread my post, I am pretty much in agreement with you. If there was evidence to charge these guys (or pretty much anyone else we are holding and haven't charged yet), we should do so. While, there is no way of knowing for sure why no charges have yet to have been brought, chances are we might not have the evidence to bring charges. The accusations could very well be true, but accusations aren't evidence, nor are they proof.
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