Colorado man forced to bake gay wedding cakes, ordered by judge to attend "sensitivity training" (programs, homosexuals)

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by tamajane

The baker would have to deliver the cake to the wedding if he did for others. Photographers have to go to gay weddings, even if they don't want to, under these laws.

Doctors deny patients medical treatment based on age. They regularly turn away patients who want to be sterilized, based on age, even if it will help alleviate pain from medical conditions. Where is the law preventing this discrimination?

I know someone that is 77 and was diagnosed with prostrate cancer. He was told "you only have a few years left anyway, live with it".

This is age discrimination. Where do we draw the line?

[Driller1]

Originally Posted by urbanlife78

Stull doesn't make discrimination okay.

How do you know a gay person's job was not effected by this very case.

Not hired....hours cut....job never created.

[urbanlife78]

Originally Posted by pknopp

And it never will, the question is whether or not it's the place of the government to try and force everyone to think alike.

Well it is the government's place to make sure Americans are not being discriminated against.

[Bideshi]

Originally Posted by urbanlife78

Well it is the government's place to make sure Americans are not being discriminated against.

It's the government's sworn duty to defend the Constitution's guarantee of freedom of religion.

[urbanlife78]

Originally Posted by Driller1

How do you know a gay person's job was not effected by this very case.

Not hired....hours cut....job never created.

Ah, I see you found the straw for your strawman argument.

[urbanlife78]

Originally Posted by Bideshi

It's the government's sworn duty to defend the Constitution's guarantee of freedom of religion.

Freedom of religion doesn't mean freedom to be a bigot in a place of business. Stop using religion to hide behind to your own bigotry.

[Driller1]

Originally Posted by urbanlife78

Ah, I see you found the straw for your strawman argument.

Are you saying my post is not true.....or, you just do not want the truth???

[Hyperthetic]

Wouldn't a baker who mastered limp-wristedness (sensitivity enhancement) be relegated to that division of labor restricting to cake decorating only?

Marxism: You are your job, man.

Cake decorators don't knead dough; they invest primarily in appearances.

apeeriori - adverb

"in a way based on theoretical deduction rather than empirical observation : sexuality may be a factor, but it cannot be assumed a priori."

a posteriori - adverb

"in a way based on reasoning from known facts or past events rather than by making assumptions or predictions."

"• (loosely) with hindsight; as an afterthought."

[Bideshi]

Originally Posted by urbanlife78

Freedom of religion doesn't mean freedom to be a bigot in a place of business. Stop using religion to hide behind to your own bigotry.

Stop defending your bigotry against Christianity by equating racial discrimination with religious opposition to immorality.

[FatBob96]

Originally Posted by weltschmerz

What do you mean by 'a right is universal'? It applies throughout the universe? That's a pretty strange statement to make.
Healthcare is a right in my country. Does that mean it's a right in yours, what with it being universal and all?

A universal right is one that you have regardless of societies rules, one that simply comes as a part of being human.
Universal rights do not require action on the part of others to bestow them on you but rather only a lack of actions from others that would interfere with these rights.

Having a "right" to healthcare requires action on the part of others on your behalf, therefore it is a societal based privilege.