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Old 06-10-2014, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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Question - do you reserve this same level of naked hatred for folks like Rosa Parks? MLK? Both were jailed for refusing to obey laws that upset them and made them sad.
No. A more reasonable question would be "Do I reserve the same level of naked hatred for the Klan?" Why would I view people who opposed discrimination in the same light as those who support it the way the right wingers here do?

Oh, and its not naked hatred. Contemptuous disdain at worst.

 
Old 06-10-2014, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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They may not have done that, but they are forcing a man to bake a cake against his will for an event that violates his Religion (which is SUPPOSED TO BE protected under the 1st Amendment) and if he refuses they will destroy his business, his livlihood, his Right to Pursue Prosperity, and probably his family as well as he will be out of work and no longer able to pay his mortgage, thus making them homeless.

It's almost just as bad. It's Fascist Bullying and anyone who isn't blinded by their own agenda can clearly see it.
Cry me a river. He's in the BUSINESS of making cakes.
 
Old 06-10-2014, 02:17 PM
 
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I think you need to learn what a straw man is.
It isn't a real possible situation.
 
Old 06-10-2014, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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It isn't a real possible situation.
Uhhh, that has nothing to do with being a straw man.

Fallacy: Straw Man
 
Old 06-10-2014, 02:22 PM
 
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Cry me a river. He's in the BUSINESS of making cakes.
What about the Mozilla FireFox CEO? Remember, the one who didn't support gay marriage? You supported his public execution (firing), claiming that "Businesses have the right to choose". Well here it is, a business owner having the right to choose. But yet you're out to destroy this innocent baker. What's the difference? Oh right, the baker is a Christian and standing up for his Religious Rights. Of course all it takes is to simply disagree with homosexuality and your business will receive a visit from The Rainbow Gestapo.
 
Old 06-10-2014, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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A baker is being forced to do something against their will, in violation of their rights under the 1st Amendment.

Can I force a Kosher deli to cater a party that violates Kashruth? After all, they run a business and must serve me if I so demand.

Can I force a Muslim restaurant to cater a bar(t) mitzvah?
Don't be ridiculous. That's a flawed analogy. A Kosher deli doesn't serve pork or shellfish to ANYONE. They don't deal in that type of food, period. They deal only in Kosher food and can't be forced to serve bacon.
A baker makes wedding cakes, however. He's choosing to say 'I'll make a cake for these people but not those people. Again...he's in the business of making cakes.
 
Old 06-10-2014, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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What about the Mozilla FireFox CEO? Remember, the one who didn't support gay marriage? You supported his public execution (firing), claiming that "Businesses have the right to choose". Well here it is, a business owner having the right to choose. But yet you're out to destroy this innocent baker. What's the difference? Oh right, the baker is a Christian and standing up for his Religious Rights. Of course all it takes is to simply disagree with homosexuality and your business will receive a visit from The Rainbow Gestapo.
I did? Show me the posts. You're confusing me with someone else.
 
Old 06-10-2014, 02:27 PM
 
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I did? Show me the posts. You're confusing me with someone else.
Perhaps I am, sorry.
 
Old 06-10-2014, 02:29 PM
 
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Uhhh, that has nothing to do with being a straw man.

Fallacy: Straw Man
You don't want to answer......I understand.
 
Old 06-10-2014, 02:32 PM
 
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You don't want to answer......I understand.
Yep....the written white flag.
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