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Old 06-06-2014, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Remember how, just last month, Republicans tried to combat the good news about how many people had signed up for health insurance under the ACA by claiming the American health care industry was "in a death spiral"? Not surprisingly Fox was lying to their ignorant viewers, yet again, and the truth is the exact opposite of what the wingnuts were claiming (as always). The fact is industry profits & revenues are both at or near record highs, the number of people employed in the health care industry has increased by over 1 million since the ACA passed, and most providers are busy expanding their operations so they can grab and even larger slice of the fast growing health care market.

This according to the conservative publication Forbes.

Since the ACA passage, health care industry gained a million jobs

Are our local wingnuts who, breathlessly, repeated the Rove/Fox talking point about the industry being in a "death spiral" willing to admit they were wrong and fooled by lies which were broadcast (over and over and over) in the right wing echo chamber? I don't they'll ever admit to being wrong but it sure would make a nice change so a guy can hope.
How about when the business mandate comes in and business drops their insurance. There will be millions more reminded how bad it is
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Old 06-06-2014, 05:34 PM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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I'm late here... so what are these new jobs? Are they medical/scientific, or are they bureaucrats or insurance?

That makes ALL the difference...
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Old 06-06-2014, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Behind enemy lines
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my sister in law sells insurance to large companies and says ACA premiums will be going up substantially (as much as 70% in some cases) in the fall. initial rates were only introductory and the "system" requires a certain demographic base of payers to buy-in and make it work. she says people have no idea what's coming and are in for a rude awakening. she also says there may be restrictions/ added taxes on certain foods.

anyone who believes the numbers the govt. puts out needs to wake up and smell the coffee.
I'm sure the insurance companies will be "directed" to hold off until after November. Wouldn't be the first time something like that has happened....
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Old 06-06-2014, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Healthcare is a huge portion of the economy and a certain percent of all jobs created over the last decade are in the health sector.

We need to know if the jobs created since the ACA are at the same percentage of all jobs created pre-ACA. The absolute value is meaningless.
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Old 06-06-2014, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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All of the sadistic governors who are denying their citizens the Medicaid expansion will buckle under pressure from hospitals and business leaders who need those hospitals to generate economic activity in their communities.
Why exactly should Medicaid be expanded? Obamacare has been touted for years by libs as the solution to our health care problems. SHouldn't people be getting on boards with this wonderful new program, full of success and opportunity, instead of shuffled into an old, lacking system like Medicaid? Really, if Obamacare is so successful, why do we still have Medicaid at all? Shouldn't everyone be on this wonderful new plan?
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Old 06-07-2014, 04:41 AM
 
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Remember how, just last month, Republicans tried to combat the good news about how many people had signed up for health insurance under the ACA by claiming the American health care industry was "in a death spiral"? Not surprisingly Fox was lying to their ignorant viewers, yet again, and the truth is the exact opposite of what the wingnuts were claiming (as always). The fact is industry profits & revenues are both at or near record highs, the number of people employed in the health care industry has increased by over 1 million since the ACA passed, and most providers are busy expanding their operations so they can grab and even larger slice of the fast growing health care market.

This according to the conservative publication Forbes.

Since the ACA passage, health care industry gained a million jobs

Are our local wingnuts who, breathlessly, repeated the Rove/Fox talking point about the industry being in a "death spiral" willing to admit they were wrong and fooled by lies which were broadcast (over and over and over) in the right wing echo chamber? I don't they'll ever admit to being wrong but it sure would make a nice change so a guy can hope.
The ACA not only continues to help millions of Americans, it has the side benefit of showing how ideologically radical conservatives have become.


Every conservative predicted Armageddon and complete failure and not one not one of their analysis came to pass. conservatives have been wrong about everything.
They are nearly completely silent about the ACA. Only offering more false analysis of future disaster.


If conservatives weren't so extreme they might reflect why were they so utterly wrong in their phony predictions about the ACA, but conservatives don't offer analysis of public policy, they offer ideology.
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Old 06-07-2014, 06:41 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Originally Posted by Think4Yourself View Post
Remember how, just last month, Republicans tried to combat the good news about how many people had signed up for health insurance under the ACA by claiming the American health care industry was "in a death spiral"? Not surprisingly Fox was lying to their ignorant viewers, yet again, and the truth is the exact opposite of what the wingnuts were claiming (as always). The fact is industry profits & revenues are both at or near record highs, the number of people employed in the health care industry has increased by over 1 million since the ACA passed, and most providers are busy expanding their operations so they can grab and even larger slice of the fast growing health care market.

This according to the conservative publication Forbes.

Since the ACA passage, health care industry gained a million jobs

Are our local wingnuts who, breathlessly, repeated the Rove/Fox talking point about the industry being in a "death spiral" willing to admit they were wrong and fooled by lies which were broadcast (over and over and over) in the right wing echo chamber? I don't they'll ever admit to being wrong but it sure would make a nice change so a guy can hope.


yeah right, they are probably including the irs jobs in that number. wish this debacle had never happened.
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Old 06-07-2014, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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The only lies I have heard in the last 5 years have come from the Republican Party. It turns out the ACA is a job creator. It opened up the Medical Ins. marketplace.
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Old 06-07-2014, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Pa
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The only lies I have heard in the last 5 years have come from the Republican Party. It turns out the ACA is a job creator. It opened up the Medical Ins. marketplace.
Obama didn't lie about what an insurance policy would cost?
He didn't lie about being able to keep your insurance if you are happy with it?
Seriously, just about everything the man has said has either turned out to be wrong or a flat out lie.
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Old 06-07-2014, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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In the May jobs report released today, more than half of the 217K jobs added were in the lowest paying sectors. Specifically:

Education and health: +63K
Leisure and Hospitality: +39K
Temp Help Services: +14K
That right there, should tell you how screwed up our priorities are as a nation when Health care and education are the two lowest paying employment opportunities.
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