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1) Germany is the size of New Mexico and and 1/4 the population of the US. Not apples to apples.
2) A tax on the people to pay for private company energy development?
3) Ok
4) Most of America would not benefit from high-speed rail as a means for commuting
5) Ok. Like what?
It's easy to talk a big talk. And then reality gets in the way.
Reality is something these folks never take into account. Yes they want to throw billions at some hi speed rail system that will do nothing but for a few. If it is ever built on our dollars they will bray that more needs to be done and want to steal more of our money to baaa about. Just pathetic. Us is too large for any type of hi speed rail. Too many quakes too but the loons in Cali will just tax more to fix the damage done.
Nice try. Both scenarios are a straw man argument. I also don't know where you get your 0.7% number from, I think you've pulled that from the department of posterior extraction!
I don't deny that big oil seeks to suppress any science that threatens their profits. That is only HALF of the story. I also don't deny that big science remains unaffected by politics, activism, dogma and greed. climate gate among other things proved this to be true.
I am about as far from a conspiracy theorist as you can get. I don't buy any of them.
Calling skeptics "conspiracy theorists" is just another ad hominem to distract from the fact that people are asking questions and your side is unable to provide answers other then personal attacks designed to shut down the conversation.
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How much longer are you going to use the "appeal to authority fallacy"? You do know that we aren't buying your cherry picked little gems don't you?
co2 is not pollution no matter what the idiots at the EPA say. It is necessary for life and if you think co2 is pollution then kill yourself and save mother earth as you are a polluter in your own eyes.
So, it sounds like what you folks are trying to communicate to us is that humans can't prove that we have had any measurable impact on the global warming and cooling cycle.......that the earth is still in charge of it's on corrective actions..........but humans have screwed up so badly by building a civilization near the ocean that we now need to tax everyone to pay for those bad decisions?
Is that what you're saying? It sure sounds like it! Thank you for your transparency!
Why are you afraid of a carbon tax? What do you know about how it works and how do you think it will effect you personally?
No co2 is not pollution and never will be no matter what your heroes say. They don't have a clue just want tax money. That is what it's all about. If co2 were pollution and destroying mother earth calls to halt it all, not tax it, would be screamed from the balcony. It isn't screamed though only want it to be taxed. There is the big lie laid out for you. Either ignore it like the rest or deal with the reality of the lie.
Why are you afraid of a carbon tax? What do you know about how it works and how do you think it will effect you personally?
Personally? Higher energy costs, food costs, basically everything will be more expensive. That is how it will effect anyone "personally". You don't seem to care though. The poor you folks always claim to fight for will be effected the most and become more poor as that dollar will be stretched thinner to pay for all the higher costs your global warming co2 tax nonsense sets across the board. Of course then you will scream they need a higher min wage to survive next. On and on it goes with you folks. Stealing money from others for your idiotic causes that do nothing but hurt all.
Because my logic is so amazingly sound and irrefutable, this is about the only response I would expect from your types.
I'll try once again: Tell me what taxing Americans will do to solve global climate change? Maybe a second time will be a charm.
I've posted this several times, but you AGW deniers seem to be ignoring it....We have a carbon tax in BC...It works and is revenue neutral. Every dollar collected is returned to the people through reduced personal and business income taxes. B.C. carbon tax showing positive results - The Globe and Mail
Why are you afraid of a carbon tax? What do you know about how it works and how do you think it will effect you personally?
This is the link ( B.C. carbon tax showing positive results - The Globe and Mail ) you posted in another topic about carbon tax. The people their seem to disagree with your claims that everyone loves it and blah, blah, blah, that the economy is great, blah, blah, blah. Your claims have been "busted".
No co2 is not pollution and never will be no matter what your heroes say. They don't have a clue just want tax money. That is what it's all about. If co2 were pollution and destroying mother earth calls to halt it all, not tax it, would be screamed from the balcony. It isn't screamed though only want it to be taxed. There is the big lie laid out for you. Either ignore it like the rest or deal with the reality of the lie.
Nobody is calling for a halt to all CO2....That would destroy our civilization and life on this planet....You really need to educate yourself on this, as you are constantly wrong.
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