Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Happy Mother`s Day to all Moms!
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 06-09-2014, 04:47 AM
 
31,988 posts, read 27,135,714 times
Reputation: 24905

Advertisements

He's at it again. Waving his magic pen Obama will now expand his student loan forgiveness scheme to potentially cover anyone with federal student loans. Repayment would be capped at 10% of monthly income with the entire balance forgiven after 20 years, ten if the borrower works in the non-profit sector.

Who is going to pay for all this forgiveness? I'll give you three guesses...

Schumer: Obama’s Student Loan Order A Good Move « CBS New York

President Obama to order help for student loan debtors - Nirvi Shah - POLITICO.com

Obama expected to promise student loan relief - Jun. 8, 2014

Obama Throws Bone To Americans Crushed With Student Loans | The Daily Caller
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 06-09-2014, 06:13 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
86,052 posts, read 84,619,694 times
Reputation: 27720
Well that is already US debt because the money was paid to the schools.

It's been said the middle class supports the poor and provides for the rich by being the consumer.
But there's only so much you can take from the middle class.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-09-2014, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Richmond,VA
3,840 posts, read 3,077,191 times
Reputation: 2830
Zero is shoring up the liberal base for the mid-terms. Everything he does is political.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-09-2014, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
86,052 posts, read 84,619,694 times
Reputation: 27720
Bread and Circuses is what we are seeing now.
Keep the people "happy and loyal".
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-09-2014, 06:19 AM
 
Location: SE WI
758 posts, read 846,876 times
Reputation: 2230
This plan is almost as sickening as Obamacare. Throughout my years at college I watched student after student subsidize their lifestyle with loans. They bought cars, partied on spring break in Florida, went on ski trips and ate at restaurants every night. Half of them never worked a summer in their life.

So now they will only have to pay 10% of their income which gives them another incentive not to work or go to school longer. And then after 20 years they can tell the bank to take their loan and stick it. Just like the losers that bought too much house and walked away from it all. Go figure...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-09-2014, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
90,297 posts, read 120,957,181 times
Reputation: 35920
Quote:
Originally Posted by TRlaura View Post
This plan is almost as sickening as Obamacare. Throughout my years at college I watched student after student subsidize their lifestyle with loans. They bought cars, partied on spring break in Florida, went on ski trips and ate at restaurants every night. Half of them never worked a summer in their life.

So now they will only have to pay 10% of their income which gives them another incentive not to work or go to school longer. And then after 20 years they can tell the bank to take their loan and stick it. Just like the losers that bought too much house and walked away from it all. Go figure...
Yeah, right.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-09-2014, 07:39 AM
 
7,846 posts, read 6,417,921 times
Reputation: 4025
Quote:
Originally Posted by BugsyPal View Post
He's at it again. Waving his magic pen Obama will now expand his student loan forgiveness scheme to potentially cover anyone with federal student loans. Repayment would be capped at 10% of monthly income with the entire balance forgiven after 20 years, ten if the borrower works in the non-profit sector.

Who is going to pay for all this forgiveness? I'll give you three guesses...

Schumer: Obama’s Student Loan Order A Good Move « CBS New York

President Obama to order help for student loan debtors - Nirvi Shah - POLITICO.com

Obama expected to promise student loan relief - Jun. 8, 2014

Obama Throws Bone To Americans Crushed With Student Loans | The Daily Caller
Wait, so it is bad for the next generation of consumers (and workers) to have more disposable income?



Learn a bit about fiat currency. The government can delete the balance of any bill with one stroke of the keyboard. Money is all made up. It is just accounting and numbers on a computer. If more people could comprehend this, they may start demanding more basic human services (like health care) from their government.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-09-2014, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
86,052 posts, read 84,619,694 times
Reputation: 27720
Quote:
Originally Posted by Katiana View Post
Yeah, right.
Kat, there's a lot of "loopholes" in the student loan program and if one plays their cards right the student can get more money than what actual school expenses cost.
And then there is SNAP for college students..again if you know the loopholes.

I've seen a few myself recently so it can be done.

A student with family in The Woodlands should not be qualifying for these types of need based loans and programs but there are loopholes in the rules that allow it.

The Woodlands: very wealthy master planned community north of Houston. Median income is $98K.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-09-2014, 08:14 AM
 
23,838 posts, read 23,163,867 times
Reputation: 9409
What they're not telling you is this, and it's a whopper: After 10 years (public sector) and 20 years (private sector) the remaining student loan debt will be foregiven. However, the "forgiveness" will be considered income for income tax purposes. Therefore, for those who have significant amounts forgiven, there will be a major shock come April 15th. Higher tax brackets and very large tax bills are extremely likely. Will these folks be able to pay a $30K tax bill? If they couldn't pay their student loans off to begin with, i'd surmise they won't be able to pay the IRS either. Ironically, public sector employees are likely to be hit the hardest because 10 years is a pittance of time to pay down a loan at 10% of discretionary income.

It's a deal with devil. Cross your fingers and hope and pray that income in 10 or 20 years will be enough to allow such a huge IRS bill to be paid.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-09-2014, 08:18 AM
 
23,838 posts, read 23,163,867 times
Reputation: 9409
Quote:
Originally Posted by TRlaura View Post
This plan is almost as sickening as Obamacare. Throughout my years at college I watched student after student subsidize their lifestyle with loans. They bought cars, partied on spring break in Florida, went on ski trips and ate at restaurants every night. Half of them never worked a summer in their life.

So now they will only have to pay 10% of their income which gives them another incentive not to work or go to school longer. And then after 20 years they can tell the bank to take their loan and stick it. Just like the losers that bought too much house and walked away from it all. Go figure...
I was just about to say that some liberal will pop in to tell you you're crazy and you didn't witness what you witnessed.

And right on queue, one rabidly liberal ideologue showed up and did just that!

You didn't see what you think you saw. Just ask this poster. She knows it all and you know nothing!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Katiana View Post
Yeah, right.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:49 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top