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Old 06-12-2014, 01:56 PM
 
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Iran have already deployed revolutionary guards this afternoon. Just in, Now the The United States is stepping in Biden tells Iraq. US ready to intensify security support.
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Old 06-12-2014, 01:58 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Bull. Utter, utter bull.
Iraq had prohibited drones, which were capable of delivering CW or BW agents, and according to the Clinton Admin had tons of unaccounted for CW and BW agents, and unaccounted for missiles. That right there, my friend, sums up to WMDs.
DoD News: DoD Briefing on Iraqi Denial and Deception

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The WMD found in Iraq...
That's just it. Found. What about the missing tons of CW and BW agents and missiles that weren't found?
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Old 06-12-2014, 02:00 PM
 
Location: southern california
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The endless carrousel of Vietnam we pull out they take over years of war and trillions for what? Lots of dead young men
Man the killer ape
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Old 06-12-2014, 02:09 PM
 
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Iraq had prohibited drones, which were capable of delivering CW or BW agents
Nope. You could present some actual, confirmed post-war evidence that they did. But you won't.

DoD News: DoD Briefing on Iraqi Denial and Deception

A 2002 briefing - are you effin' serious? In 2002, the US intelligence community knew jack sh.t about what happened in Iraq. None of that intel held up. The "biological facility" mentioned - what happened to that after the occupation? Disappeared?

The inspectors went on one wild goose chase after the other, because the US intelligence community either didn't know its ass from its elbow or cooked the data to help make the case for war.

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That's just it. Found. What about the missing tons of CW and BW agents and missiles that weren't found?
Dear Lord, you think they had perfect records? We know the pre-war intelligence was sh.t.
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Old 06-12-2014, 02:12 PM
 
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No they didn't. They even used it on their own people. Was that imaginary gas they used?
Somebody post a timeline to help SourD out, I am out of here.
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Old 06-12-2014, 02:23 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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A 2002 briefing - are you effin' serious? In 2002, the US intelligence community knew jack sh.t about what happened in Iraq. None of that intel held up.
No way to determine that. The tons of missing CW and BW agents and missing missiles were never accounted for.

Obama's own current DNI said Iraq moved illicit weapons to Syria.

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The inspectors went on one wild goose chase after the other, because the US intelligence community either didn't know its ass from its elbow or cooked the data to help make the case for war.
And yet, Obama appoints the man who says Iraq moved illicit weapons to Syria as his DNI. Go figure...
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Old 06-12-2014, 03:28 PM
 
Location: LA, CA/ In This Time and Place
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If the Obama administration had aided the more moderate resistance fighters in Syria, then the ISIS may not have become the most powerful resistance fighter group in Syria, or would have spread in Iraq. Even the Obama administration or the West did not give any significant aid to the moderate resistance groups after it was proven Assad used chemical weapons.

Yet America and the West have largely been passive regarding the situation of Syria and doing little to have aided the more moderate forces there.
I agree, apparently not aiding the rebels in Syria DID NOT have the desired effect, it only strengthened jihadists in Syria, but also in Iraq where the U.S lost so much blood and treasure.

I read an article about yesterday, where a official employed in the State Department said of the events in Iraq, "It makes you want to kill yourself".
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Old 06-12-2014, 03:42 PM
 
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Are Assad and Hezbollah the only ones crushing Islamic terrorists these days?
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Old 06-12-2014, 03:49 PM
 
Location: LA, CA/ In This Time and Place
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Yes, excellent post! We broke it, we caused all of this to happen by destabilizing the country with our invasion in 2013.

I know you meant 2003, typo.
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Old 06-12-2014, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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When you look at our foreign policy, how can a sane person come to any conclusion other than it's run by Corporate America? There is no national policy here, just a dangerous group of capitalists with very lethal weapons.
Absolutely true. The people truly running this country are not in the White House, they operate in the shadows. I wouldn't be surprised if every new President is escorted to a safe house somewhere and told "Now listen here mother***er, this is how things are run, and these are the parameters from which you will operate. Say what you want, but don't go off the reservation"
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