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Trading blame between Obama and Bush for the rise of ISIS in Syria and Iraq is useless. It is the US invasion of Iraq that brought Islamic fundamentalist terrorists from all over the world into Iraq. Saddam did plenty to crush them when he was in power, they only became relevant once the US found itself in and chaos ensued. They started this problem, so it was only right they end it, yes? The US stayed for years to defeat al-Qaeda, only to fail at that, destroy the Iraqi state, and directly/indirectly cause the death of a million Iraqis along the way (and 3,000 US troops, since that seems to be all we care about). Al-Qaeda has since reemerged. Good job Bush.
In Syria, the US - and that's both Republican and Democrat warhawks - spent three years saying Assad must go, completely ignoring the will of the Syrian people, a majority of whom are believed to still support him (and I'm not talking about the recent "election") and the secular state he leads. The US armed "rebels," insisting they were moderates, ignoring their targeting of Syrian Christian and Syrian Alawite communities, their beheadings of civilians and Syrian troops, and their imposing of harsh Sharia law in areas they rule. The US insisted there were moderates among these rebels, but could not name a single faction. Nor did the US seem to care that groups like ISIS were welcomed with open arms by the rebels. Clashes between ISIS and other rebels started when ISIS dumped them, not when they dumped ISIS. ISIS found the other rebels to be not extreme enough - even though they were plenty extreme. Actually, ISIS' biggest enemy in Syria is the Nusra Front, which is al-Qaeda's main affiliate in Syria. Time to end the myth that moderate rebels exist. Good job Obama.
Is this a US policy of divide and conquer or are we just stupid? Does anybody care that among the Syrian rebel jihadists are thousands of Americans and Europeans who will come home one day and destabilize our country?
America has a stunningly bad track record in the Middle East. Let's not forget the mess of the Iran - Iraqi war, the creation of Bin Laden to fight Russia, and so on.
At this point, yes, we need to take a new look at our policies since what we've been doing has been a stunning failure... unless the goal is to create a never-ending supply of terrorists, tyrants, and wars to fight...
America has a stunningly bad track record in the Middle East. Let's not forget the mess of the Iran - Iraqi war, the creation of Bin Laden to fight Russia, and so on.
At this point, yes, we need to take a new look at our policies since what we've been doing has been a stunning failure... unless the goal is to create a never-ending supply of terrorists, tyrants, and wars to fight...
Agreed, and I find it rather absurd that people can blame or defend Obama for something that is the fault of US policy more than it is a party policy. They're all guilty.
Obamas foreign policies or political stances regarding the Middle East have been lousy. The United States over the collective years fails to grasp the concept of the Middle East and it's issues.
Agreed, and I find it rather absurd that people can blame or defend Obama for something that is the fault of US policy more than it is a party policy. They're all guilty.
America has a stunningly bad track record in the Middle East. Let's not forget the mess of the Iran - Iraqi war, the creation of Bin Laden to fight Russia, and so on.
At this point, yes, we need to take a new look at our policies since what we've been doing has been a stunning failure... unless the goal is to create a never-ending supply of terrorists, tyrants, and wars to fight...
Perhaps that is the goal. If so than mission accomplished. Creating more enemies gives you a great excuse for increasing the defense budget, ad nauseum. And the banks make money funding it.
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