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A Civil War is going on between Shiite's and Sunni's in Iraq. A Civil War that has been going on for Centuries. It shouldn't be our job to police a Civil War between the Sunni's and Shi'ites. That is basically exactly what has been going on in Iraq since the toppling of Saddam's regime with various flare ups. The aftermath of what to do after we toppled Saddam was never planned for when we went into Iraq in the first place. The mistake was made back then.
So you don't think the Iraqis could achieve peace?
So you don't think the Iraqis could achieve peace?
They have a long record of showing they couldn't. Does that mean they never will? No, but the track record wasn't good. Also, even assuming they could one day acheive peace, that doesn't mean we should stay there for as long as it takes. We were there for almost 10 years, enough was enough. However, I did notice yet again, you refused to answer the question.
What was the alternative to leaving?? We were there for about 10 years, how much longer should we have stayed policing a Civil War??
Well, Graham voted to invade in the first place, and thus clearly has no credibility on foreign policy or security matters. If he wanted an indefinite, open-ended, money-torching occupation through 2014 and beyond, it shows that his judgment hasn't improved since then...
Remember we don't really need their oil anymore. There's other suppliers all over the world and at home. These people have been murdering and killing each other for over 2000 years. Its pointless to get involved. They don't like each other and never will.
Typical liberal deflection. "We don't think anything can be done, so we won't do anything. If you want to do something, just do it yourself. We're too lethargic and lazy in our beliefs that everything is fine."
There is nothing that can be done other than send in troops, I hope they survive this but it's their battle to win or lose not ours. We were really never in control and we were not going to leave a few hundred thousand troops in Iraq for 20 years, 10 years was plenty.
They didn't even put up a fight in Mosul and they didn't retreat they ran leaving all their equipment behind, very disheartening and doesn't speak well for their motivation to fight.
You want to do something besides type on a keyboard let's hear it, maybe we can send in the 101st laptop brigade.
So the OP thinks the US should have stayed in Iraq in a never ending war?
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Originally Posted by Finn_Cool
Typical liberals and their depressed viewpoint of the world. "It's never ending, we can't win. Finishing the job would take effort, I don't want to exert any effort. Why is life so hard? I need more entitlement programs because I deserve them."
Why are you liberals so depressed and defeated all the time?
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Originally Posted by desertdetroiter
We were defeated the minute we stepped foot in Iraq.
You conservatives are the only people that dont seem to realize it.
We went there to kill Saddam like we should have done a long time ago, OK, but after that we should have been looking for the door.
We weren't wrong to try to give these people a chance to escape tyranny, but at some point we have to accept the fact that the reason they were living under a dictator in the first place is because they don't have it in them to do otherwise.
Senator Lindsey Graham circa October 2011 on Obama's Iraq withdrawal plan
What say you liberal left? Did Senator Graham call it or what? Can you give the guy his props?
The blindness and out right dishonesty of conservatives doesn't shock anymore, bu it does make for very weird thinking on the issues.
Take Iraq, President Obama and all the Americans who did not support the Iraq war and who predicted it would be a disaster that would destabilize the nation and lead to a civil war thatbwe wouldn't be able to manage we're 100% correct.
While Lindsey Graham and all the Americans who supported the war in Iraq were 100% wrong about everything.
For Lindsey Graham or any of those supporters of the Iraq war to attempt to claim an I told you so about the Iraq disaster that was predicted by those opposed to war like President Obama is the height of irrational and weird thinking.
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