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GO BACK AND READ, YOU LITERALLY JUST CLAIMED IT WARMS THE ATMOSPHERE.
Uh, read one book on climatology or better yet, get an advance degree in it. You are so off-base it is funny, some climate alarmist say the atmosphere has plateaued specifically because of a cooling in the pacific ocean, to try to explain away the lack of atmospheric warming. (Their science is flawed.)
If the whole ocean system is warming, except for a cold spot that makes up 8 percent of the pacific ocean, the larger area (around 99%) of ocean water is actually warming, then that warming has NO DISCERNIBLE EFFECT on atmospheric temperature... but then you guys claim that 8% of the pacific ocean has enough influence to halt atmospheric warming.
Right now, the Earth is in an elevated warm period during this extended warm period (which started in the mid-1800′s as the Little Ice Age came to an end) which is still cooler than during the previous warm periods (Medieval and Roman warm periods), with a flatlined temperature gradient.
It is like you have never even heard of the scientific process, correlation is a LONG way from causation.
Stand by for a whole series of graphs to obfuscate his faux pas.
Some facts are well established. Researchers can say that global ocean levels have risen about 19 centimeters in the last century. And the rate of rise has sped up. The 20th-century average is about 1.7 millimeters per year; since 1993 the average rate has nearly doubled — to about 3.2 millimeters per year.
GLOBAL ocean heat content....I stress GLOBAL. (Zero to 2000 meters deep)
Ugh, you can't even read the stuff you type, sad. Let me get that for you:
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Originally Posted by T-310
CO2 doesn't, by itself, warm the atmosphere.
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Originally Posted by sanspeur
Really?
You DIRECTLY claimed that C02 alone causes atmospheric warming.
Regardless, you say global ocean content raises the atmospheric temperature... and you say it is rising... but the atmospheric temperature has been flat for 15 years.
Some facts are well established. Researchers can say that global ocean levels have risen about 19 centimeters in the last century. And the rate of rise has sped up. The 20th-century average is about 1.7 millimeters per year; since 1993 the average rate has nearly doubled — to about 3.2 millimeters per year.
I'm not back tracking....You are not understanding....I have never said that CO2 warms anything....The sun warms the earth, but CO2 in the atmosphere prevents some of the suns heat from reflecting back into space and instead reflects back to earth, moderating the global temperature, but too much CO2 means the temperature rises because more is reflected back to earth...This is basic science that has been known for over a hundred years.
I'm not back tracking....You are not understanding....I have never said that CO2 warms anything....The sun warms the earth, but CO2 in the atmosphere prevents some of the suns heat from reflecting back into space and instead reflects back to earth, moderating the global temperature, but too much CO2 means the temperature rises because more is reflected back to earth...This is basic science that has been known for over a hundred years.
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Originally Posted by T-310
CO2 doesn't, by itself, warm the atmosphere.
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Originally Posted by sanspeur
Really?
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Since 1997 C02 levels have increased by about 20PPM, the climate has not warmed in that time period.
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Originally Posted by sanspeur
The atmosphere has warmed very little, but the oceans continue to warm and rise.
Heck, you even claim that C02 alone raises the ocean temps. You might not understand English enough to understand what you imply in these sentences, doesn't mean it aint there. Context has meaning.
Ugh, you can't even read the stuff you type, sad. Let me get that for you:
You DIRECTLY claimed that C02 alone causes atmospheric warming.
Regardless, you say global ocean content raises the atmospheric temperature... and you say it is rising... but the atmospheric temperature has been flat for 15 years.
It is your reading comprehension that I think is the problem...I have never say that CO2 alone causes AGW, nor did I say that the ocean is heating the atmosphere.....Were did you come up with that?
The earth continues to warm, and the oceans continue to rise...Your disbelief has no effect on those facts.
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