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Old 06-14-2014, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Is not.


 
Old 06-14-2014, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Originally Posted by remoddahouse View Post
That one guy writes an opinion to a newspaper doesn't mean that you should agree or sit around crying. Here's the sum total of what the guy whined about. Coal regulations, VA scandal, Iran, trading for a POW, Obamacare and targeting conservative groups.

Now, put away the childish emotions. What's missing there. When you go to the doctor and he says that you're not eating well, the doctor is able to say here's how you should eat. What's missing here is the guy has no data and no discussion, at all, of how he should have handled things differently.

YOU are letting yourself by manipulated by people who just whine all day.

Coal Regulations - 2% per year in place in 16 years. Cry me a river. The coal industry's real problem is that natural gas is world's cheaper and it's cleaner. The toll the guy talks about? A few thousand jobs. That's assuming that by that time we're not exporting out all of our coal. Notice how he doesn't mention natural gas? That's because he's a clueless, whining little partisan

VA scandal - Sure, there are issues there. Would it have been different under Romney? No evidence of that. Was congress looking to spend more money on anything? No. 2 wars, way more vets and nobody was running to give funding. There's all of 0 evidence that the President knew of the problems and they put a frickin' General in charge. It's an issue, obviously, but not POTUS fault and you'd have the same situation under Romney.

Iran - Ok, ante up what POTUS is supposed to do here. There's no good alternative. He's doing what the previous governments have done. Our foreign policy position is weakened by having foolishly gone in Iraq. There no longer a threat on Iran's doorstep and the population don't want troops on the ground anywhere.

Trading for a POW - Want to see the hypocrisy in the whining here? McCain, the POTUS candidate for Obama's first election, was on record last year trying to bring the guy home. Now he's on record saying we shouldn't have. It's just partisan whining. The author says he's an alleged deserter. Don't we have a presumption of innocence in this country? Oh right, that only applies when it's useful for whining like a little girl about the other side

Obamacare - Ok, this is a big change in regulation, but for all of the conservative whining about this, nobody talks about how it was a conservative idea and it was put forward as the conservative health plan in the 90's. There was NO other alternative put forward and it has had some positive effects. He doesn't give any detail or data about why he thinks it's bad

Targeting conservative groups - There's all of 0 evidence showing that this was politically motivated. Some liberal groups were targeted too. What he doesn't mention here is the Citizens United ruling. That basically made these groups balloon, the IRS had no additional resources and they tried to find a way to hold people accountable. It was a bad idea, but he says it was politically motivated which he doesn't prove.

Seriously, don't let yourself be manipulated by this garbage. The bulk of the issues in this country are STILL associated with our debt and the effects of the great recession and the ongoing offshoring of American jobs. Simpletons like the partisan whining in this editorial would rather just whine about the other side though.
Well done
 
Old 06-15-2014, 01:19 AM
 
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Is not.
Please awaken!
 
Old 06-15-2014, 04:04 AM
 
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Is not.
Of course not especially for those on the EBT dole...Obama is their man.
 
Old 06-15-2014, 07:54 AM
 
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What arguments have been presented by the right?



Sure. Identify these policies. I hear about them in every thread but... no one can seem to articulate what they are!



How?
If you haven't figured it after scandal after scandal, I refuse to spoon feed you.

Bury your head in the sand again and go LALALALALALALA!!
 
Old 06-15-2014, 08:46 AM
 
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Default End Game for Obama.

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Originally Posted by gmagoo View Post
We all miss the good old days when we were losing 750,000 jobs a month and the DOW was at 7,400.
40 million forced off their plans?
The Market in a free Capitalist Society does recover from bad political decisions. In the Case of President Obama. The point I have just thought of is let's look more closely to Senator Obama.

The man saw which way the housing marking was going and the force regulation to the Leading Industry. Yet he did nothing more than to vote" Present 143 times" and attack GW Bush. He certainly did not bring new ideals and solutions to the table.

Obama even voted for Tarp!

While Obama was campaigning for President and did not want to get his hands dirty. The same can be said for Ms. Clinton too. She too has a solid record of nothing.

Those who defend the Leader Obama should really take a closer look of Obama's history as Senator.


I bet you did not expect this all of you Obama-Botts!
 
Old 06-15-2014, 09:17 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Boss View Post
Well done
Originally Posted by remoddahouse
That one guy writes an opinion to a newspaper doesn't mean that you should agree or sit around crying. Here's the sum total of what the guy whined about. Coal regulations, VA scandal, Iran, trading for a POW, Obamacare and targeting conservative groups.

Now, put away the childish emotions. What's missing there. When you go to the doctor and he says that you're not eating well, the doctor is able to say here's how you should eat. What's missing here is the guy has no data and no discussion, at all, of how he should have handled things differently.

YOU are letting yourself by manipulated by people who just whine all day.

Coal Regulations - 2% per year in place in 16 years. Cry me a river. The coal industry's real problem is that natural gas is world's cheaper and it's cleaner. The toll the guy talks about? A few thousand jobs. That's assuming that by that time we're not exporting out all of our coal. Notice how he doesn't mention natural gas? That's because he's a clueless, whining little partisan


Tell that to the men and states who depend on coal for their lively hoods. There is many clean coal plants that are the verge to be shut down because of the EPA. These are and maybe were Democratic Supporters.

VA scandal - Sure, there are issues there. Would it have been different under Romney? No evidence of that. Was congress looking to spend more money on anything? No. 2 wars, way more vets and nobody was running to give funding. There's all of 0 evidence that the President knew of the problems and they put a frickin' General in charge. It's an issue, obviously, but not POTUS fault and you'd have the same situation under Romney.

The President is responsible and when he visits these facilities which is good. He should of been asking the right questions. By the way this is the second time this issue has bubble up to the top. one would thing that would be on your list to do?

Iran - Ok, ante up what POTUS is supposed to do here. There's no good alternative. He's doing what the previous governments have done. Our foreign policy position is weakened by having foolishly gone in Iraq. There no longer a threat on Iran's doorstep and the population don't want troops on the ground anywhere.


The Problem is the President and his advisors was hopping this would go away after a few weeks. This has got serious and troubling at the same time. I can understand since the talks broke down on a American force left behind, but the President should be been moving resources in the area second week in.
Leading from behind does not work for America.

Trading for a POW - Want to see the hypocrisy in the whining here? McCain, the POTUS candidate for Obama's first election, was on record last year trying to bring the guy home. Now he's on record saying we shouldn't have. It's just partisan whining. The author says he's an alleged deserter. Don't we have a presumption of innocence in this country? Oh right, that only applies when it's useful for whining like a little girl about the other side

McCain is not President and the President has made decisions based on Political outcome, not what is best for America's Security. He released 5 Muslim leaders who will return to the fight. This time they have a 2x4 on their shoulder.
Obamacare - Ok, this is a big change in regulation, but for all of the conservative whining about this, nobody talks about how it was a conservative idea and it was put forward as the conservative health plan in the 90's. There was NO other alternative put forward and it has had some positive effects. He doesn't give any detail or data about why he thinks it's bad


The Law was fatally wrong on many levels and pasted by shot gun measure. The Proof is higher medical cost. No Doctor will not accept the program and many others have opt out or took early retirement. No one put the correct cost in the calculation of this program.

The Conservative ideals which are many is to treat Health insurance like automotive insurance. Keep Gov out of Health care. Pooling for real reduced levels. Tort reform which nobody wants to discus is a important point to reduce the insurance levels that Doctors have to carry.

Give the consumer choices and these Hospital will be more competitive with there market rates. have special programs for Fatally ill patients..

Just a few.

Although there is some good points to Obama Care his signature program is a failure.
I pay more and my wife remains without insurance until she can find a job? Obama care is the law right now and its fully in the laps of all Democrats who pushed this thru under supper majority and Reid's trick to over turns Sen. Browns No Vote.

Targeting conservative groups - There's all of 0 evidence showing that this was politically motivated. Some liberal groups were targeted too. What he doesn't mention here is the Citizens United ruling. That basically made these groups balloon, the IRS had no additional resources and they tried to find a way to hold people accountable. It was a bad idea, but he says it was politically motivated which he doesn't prove.


You down playing this to make it go away. There is ample evidence and learner still refuses to testify. If this was on the up and up . Learner should of presented evidence to support the IRS Policies.

Seriously, don't let yourself be manipulated by this garbage. The bulk of the issues in this country are STILL associated with our debt and the effects of the great recession and the ongoing offshoring of American jobs. Simpletons like the partisan whining in this editorial would rather just whine about the other side though.



 
Old 06-16-2014, 08:21 AM
 
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Is not.

Just Iraq...... why should we care!

Glad someone invented "golfing" otherwise our President would have to sit and do nothing.
 
Old 06-16-2014, 08:23 AM
 
Location: North America
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Yeah, and Congress has absolutely nothing to do with the law making process, do they?
 
Old 06-16-2014, 08:25 AM
 
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Yeah, and Congress has absolutely nothing to do with the law making process, do they?
When the President talks about climate warming at graduation and goes golfing.......where did he call the meeting to stop what he thought was finished in Iraq?

Have you seen the Taliban calendar of "Pull Out Dates" in Iraq?
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