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View Poll Results: Has Obama's foreign policy been an utter and complete failure thus far?
Yes, 2 civil wars, spying on allies, and Iraq falling into the hands of Jihadist. I don't see how he could do worse. 36 55.38%
Yes, but some of what has happened is not under his control. 13 20.00%
No, he's been very successful. 10 15.38%
No, it's all Bush and Cheney's fault!!! I can't find a connection to Kiev or Benghazi, but I'll just assume Bush messed that up too. 6 9.23%
Voters: 65. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-16-2014, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Yeah! Darn people for reminding you of the results of the scum Bush's failed right-wing policies. They should just pretend the consequences of right-wing failure don't exist so you don't get upset and whiny. Keeping you from being upset and whiny is everyone's number one priority.
Bush was a failure and so is Obama. At some point Obama has to accept responsibility for the failures of his own administration. This thread is in regard to Obama and not GWB.
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Old 06-16-2014, 04:05 PM
 
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Bush was a failure and so is Obama. At some point Obama has to accept responsibility for the failures of his own administration. This thread is in regard to Obama and not GWB.
That's the logical flaw most liberals posting in this thread make, because someone dislikes Obama, they must LOVE Dubya. That couldn't be further from the truth.
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Old 06-16-2014, 05:06 PM
 
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"But but he's still better than that war criminal Bush!"

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C-D Liberal

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Old 06-16-2014, 05:34 PM
 
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and the poll keeps getting more and more lopsided. lol
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Old 06-16-2014, 05:40 PM
 
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Touched anything? Maybe Hillary's ass.
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Old 06-17-2014, 08:09 AM
 
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Damn it's a wipeout. Less than 20% of this forum thinks Obummer is not a total failure. LOL
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Old 06-17-2014, 08:11 AM
 
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You're unhappy.

I can tell.

Call your senators and congressman. Demand immediate impeachment. Keep us updated.

What was your reaction to W Bush's calamaties?

You would not be a hypocrite now would you?
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Old 06-17-2014, 02:41 PM
 
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Lol.... thanks for the usual partisan ranting.

Most of the failures actually ARE continuations of Bush's policies, or more precisely, the policies of those who actually control the government and both parties.

But, sure - feel free to live in Tea Party land, where the following facts don't apply:

1) The GOP cut the funding to protect our embassy's, Benghazi included:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/15/op...hame.html?_r=0

Sure, let's ignore that fact and pretend it's all the fault of "liberals."

2) NSA's spying has gone on for years, and the Patriot Act was passed on Bush's watch. Again, more little facts that nobody wants to hear.

3) Starting a war with Russia is not a good idea, but sure - let's start up WW 3 over the Ukraine. Great idea!

4) The Middle East: I'm sorry, but when was the last time, exactly, the US has had a policy here that worked? Are we forgetting a few little wars started under Bush that helped set the current events in motion? Heck, are we forgetting decades of failures - from both parties - that have helped all this unfold?

Obama is no saint, that much is obvious, but it is simply laughable to wave the OP's list around as some sort of "proof" of how bad his foreign policy is when most of the junk mentioned either had nothing to do with him (Benghazi), or are simply the OP's personal rants - "let's start a war with Russia!" Finally, anyone who actually cared about this nation - instead of partisan rants - might want to know why failed foreign policies continue, regardless of which part is in office... but, no - let's not ask any real questions and instead shriek "liberal!!!" and pretend we're having intelligent discussions on this forum.
Well said!
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Old 06-17-2014, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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"But but he's still better than that war criminal Bush!"

signed,
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Yes. The White House rose garden would do a better job than Bush did. Remember how Bush was an utter failure at everything? That's why.

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Old 06-17-2014, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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Bush was a failure and so is Obama. At some point Obama has to accept responsibility for the failures of his own administration. This thread is in regard to Obama and not GWB.
Obama's not a smashing success in all things, but I count the number of warnings of an impending attack that he's ignored at zero. Also, he hasn't invaded any countries under false pretenses or had anyone kidnaped and tortured. To say "Bush was a failure and so is Obama" is to say "Amputation without anaesthetic is painful, and so is a papercut".
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