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Actually, I was thinking more of the media in general (do you not remember the government pulling phone records of journalists?), Snowden, and Assange.
Snowden and Assange are not "under assault" for anything they've said about the president. They're trying to avoid legal prosecution for releasing classified material.
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Not to mention the IRS persecution of "dissenting" organizations.
TP: "We're the tea party. We hate taxes. Give us tax exempt status."
Snowden and Assange are not "under assault" for anything they've said about the president. They're trying to avoid legal prosecution for releasing classified material.
TP: "We're the tea party. We hate taxes. Give us tax exempt status."
IRS: "We'll need some documentation."
GOP: "It's a scandal!"
You forgot hundreds of question from the IRS that rivals a secret clearance background check.
You don't need to flat out ignore someone to silence dissent. You can burden them to a point where they give up. It's called attrition for the not-too-bright.
You forgot hundreds of question from the IRS that rivals a secret clearance background check.
You don't need to flat out ignore someone to silence dissent. You can burden them to a point where they give up. It's called attrition for the not-too-bright.
How many TP groups have been denied the tax free status they've applied for?
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At this rate, I think anyone would have been better than someone whose primary reason to vote him into the highest executive office in the world despite zero executive experience was that he was cool.
The primary interest in voting for him was to keep a sad old man, a ditz, and Mr. Smarm from the White House.
At the end of the day, the 2003 Iraq war was a massive miscalculation that cost the US thousands of lives, and hundreds of billions of dollars - and that's cheap compared to what it cost the Iraqis. The way it was implemented guaranteed that it would be a failure, because there was never a chance that Americans would want to spend decades attempting to create a western-style democracy there, and nothing less would actually do the job. The McCains and Rumsfelds on sunday talk shows, talking about how the occupation would pay for itself, and the Iraqis would nearly worship us, were laughably wrong.
Yes, there's the "you broke it, you bought it" analogy that Colin Powell likes, but there's the analogy of throwing good money after bad, as well. The simple fact is, ISIS isn't even much of a force - but the Iraq government is so bad that, even with superior equipment and a 40:1 manpower advantage, their own troops simply run away, stripping off their uniforms and abandoning their equipment. Why should we waste a single life fighting for Iraq, if *Iraq* won't fight for Iraq?
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Yes, there's the "you broke it, you bought it" analogy that Colin Powell likes, but there's the analogy of throwing good money after bad, as well. The simple fact is, ISIS isn't even much of a force - but the Iraq government is so bad that, even with superior equipment and a 40:1 manpower advantage, their own troops simply run away, stripping off their uniforms and abandoning their equipment. Why should we waste a single life fighting for Iraq, if *Iraq* won't fight for Iraq?
That's the only question we need answer here.
And the correct answer is a resounding WE SHOULD NOT!
Snowden and Assange are not "under assault" for anything they've said about the president. They're trying to avoid legal prosecution for releasing classified material.
TP: "We're the tea party. We hate taxes. Give us tax exempt status."
IRS: "We'll need some documentation."
GOP: "It's a scandal!"
So, when Obama pushes his agenda, Obamabots say he's the government. But when someone says something negative about this administration, he's not the government....
Also, if you really believe that the IRS did nothing wrong, explain why Lois Lerner didn't just say so rather than pleading the fifth. Also explain why the IRS, an organization that is all about record keeping, managed to lose 2 years worth of emails which should - assuming that the IRS did nothing wrong - definitively answer the question in the Obama administration's favor.
Obama agreed to follow Bush's withdrawal timeline, but is accused of being disinterested in managing it and possible consequences.
"Unfortunately, this administration's principal interest seemed to be not stability in Iraq, not partnership with Iraq, or even Iraq as a hedge against extremism in the region."
We needed a much better president to follow Bush, too bad we got his twin brother.
After reading the article and seeing no one giving their name you wonder which clowns who put us into the mess in the first place they quoted. Remember the Vietnam Nam war and how it ended.
After reading the article and seeing no one giving their name you wonder which clowns who put us into the mess in the first place they quoted. Remember the Vietnam Nam war and how it ended.
The anonymous retired defense officials easily could be from Obama's administration. His military advised a force of 16k+ remain in Iraq.
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