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Old 06-15-2014, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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Dear Republicans, how then should the poor live?

Are you fishing with live bait or are you using lures?
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Old 06-15-2014, 12:14 PM
 
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Gosh, the suburbs are so depressing. Quietness, isolation, total dependency on cars.
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Old 06-15-2014, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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I'm more liberal and I am 100% a city person, in Chicago. I love the vibe, the history, the convenience, the opportunities, and the money I save. I have a way of finagling cheap rent in decent neighborhoods, and I don't spend a dime on gas or transit because I bike everywhere, and save money on groceries and other things because there are so many options in just a 15-minute riding radius. I could maybe live for slightly cheaper in a rural area (definitely not a suburban one), but I'd spend much more time travelling around in a car.

What's even the advantage of a "big lawn"? It's a maintenance expense, and 98% of people don't even utilize it to its potential. It's like you pay a bunch of money for a big space so it can sit empty. If you were to actually spend time on your big front yard (at least in the suburbs), people would call you a hick and/or find some legal grounds for banning you from it.

I am more suburb than rural and my lot is .5 acre, most of it being lawn. I use my yard every day as I have an active dog I take out and romp around with. Most of my neighbors are as you describe and have the same sized lots. One thing about a big lot is it affords you privacy.

Why would any call one a hick for spending time on a lawn and why would they want to ban the practice. I could understand why progressives might but not for other reasons.
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Old 06-15-2014, 12:19 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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This is probably because liberals tend to be younger and don't have families and kids yet.
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Old 06-15-2014, 12:28 PM
 
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Polls like this are nonsense. I live in a blue state in the bluest county of all and libs love their big homes with their big yards and constantly brag about the cheap prices they pay illegals to tend to their yards and homes. There's a reason the Clintons moved to Chappaqua...it's full of rich, white Democrats and lots of cheap help. //www.city-data.com/city/Chappaqua-New-York.html

You live in Essex County? Oh wait...Newark has some suburbs that aren't so blue...Hudson isn't as blue as Newark but Jersey City's suburbs I think are more blue than Newark's suburbs. I think the gut reaction is to say Essex has to be the bluest county and it isn't close.

I can't tell because I think it probably IS close - I don't see any "obvious" choice.

I can't think of any convenient cheap places for the help to live. The cheap help in Ridgewood live a stone's throw away in Paterson, but Mount Vernon isn't exactly next door to Chappaqua. Are the cheap help now living in White Plains and New Rochelle?
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Old 06-15-2014, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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What I took away from this polling information is this is another indication of conservative self delusion.


conservatives say they prefer to live in rural or small towns by huge margins, yet based on where they actually live, that is not true.

Anyone can take a look at interactive maps of where Americans live, and the reality is that more and more Americans live in big cities or the suburbs of big cities, and fewer and fewer American live in rural areas.

Yet despite this reality, conservatives have deluded themselves into believing they prefer living in small towns and rural areas at the moment the fewest Americans live in either place.

This is what the nation is confronting a group of zealots who are completely blind to their own nation's reality.

The realities of life sometimes do not jibe well with ones own desires.
Conservatives will often look at the big picture and do what's best for their families future rather than indulge in selfish inclinations at the expense of loved ones.
If that means living in the Burbs for a while when I would prefer to be in the country, then so be it.
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Old 06-15-2014, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Dear Republicans, how then should the poor live?
How ever they wish..
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Old 06-15-2014, 12:31 PM
 
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Interesting study. Rural areas are bastions of faith and thus conservatism in this country, so I'm not surprised. It's likely why conservatism is so held back by the focus on abortion in this country.
Not true.....I believe abortion is between a woman and her doctor.
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Old 06-15-2014, 12:32 PM
 
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Dear Republicans, how then should the poor live?
Stop being poor.

I did.
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Old 06-15-2014, 12:36 PM
 
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Gosh, the suburbs are so depressing. Quietness, isolation, total dependency on cars.

Only if you are a chronic shopper.

Thousands and thousands and thousands of workers commute to work from NYC suburbs by train or bus. The LIRR takes thousands to and from Long Island to NYC every weekday. More thousands commute from northern New Jersey.
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