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Show me where I was "entirely silent"? Bush spent like a drunken sailor, Obama spent like a drunken Bush. Liberalism is dinosaur ideology because it's predicated on the notion of a HUGE Government Industrial Complex controlling every aspect of our lives from cradle to grave.
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Originally Posted by remoddahouse
Why do people talk about Republican politicians in terms of not compromising? It's the mantra of a large part of the far right base to not compromise on anything. Have a look at the discussions over the last few years to work on fixing the budget deficit. Democrats were willing to give up 3 or 4 to 1 in terms of spending reductions vs tax increases. In the end, Republican leadership weren't able to get anything done because the fringe element wouldn't agree to any tax increases.
Most of the people like yourself were entirely silent when Republicans had full control of the House, Senate and Presidency. The whining about small government goes away because the emotion need to whine about Democrats is gone.
To say that most conservatives in this country want small government is ignoring that the right in this country is driven by religion, not small government. Please tell me any of the Republican candidates for President who were pro-choice.
In terms of the conservatism you're talking about, while you're done a better job than most of outlining your concerns, you say nothing about any real changes that can be made. That's rather unfortunately typical of most anyone conservative. It makes people like me look bad.
The bulk of the government budget is made up of Social Security, Medicare, National Defense, Social Security and servicing the debt. There's about 28% left over for everything else. None of those first five things can be cut, so your sum total of small government comes out of 28% of the revenues. Best of luck shrinking that down. Oh and by the way, with the population demographics changing due to the baby boomers, the outflows from Social Security and Medicare are going to balloon. Oh and unfortunately, we gutted the tax base so none of this is really paid for.
Please feel free to present a real solution and something that would actually happen and not some pie in the sky that will never happen.
The problem isn't finding common ground, it's that both sides don't want to come to the table. Extremists on BOTH sides have a problem working together. As Obama said, there were Republicans who helped with immigration reform and the others who didn't want it, were the problem. On the Democrat side, I see the same with Pelosi and Reid.
Uh.........Pelosi and Reid are Obama's helper monkeys, they just spew whatever he wants them to.
untrue, repubs vowed no compromise w/this president, in a closed meeting on the day of his first inauguration. The president has bent over backwards, much to the dislike of his own party trying to kowtow to the TPs. But, it appears, FINALLY, that this man is capable of fighting back. If Boehner would bring the bill on immigration up for a vote, which he hasn't, there appears to be no concern that it wouldn't pass. Repubs do not want to see this President have any success. I wonder when a female Democrat becomes our President if she will have to endure the same stonewalling. Is it anti-democrat that propels them or is it just against this specific
man??????
LOL, in fact, in looking for that common ground, the only ones who seem to be required to "reach across the aisle" have been the Republicans. I've never heard a Dem ask other Dems to do it, yet I've heard many "Republicans" say that they, or other Republicans, should.
That was one of my main points in the op, I never hear liberals tell me where dems should compromise, it's only republicans who should. What specifically should democrats compromise on?
A.) That's crazy.
B.) You're failing to account for the fact that every state, city, town and village in America is deeply divided. Very liberal cities like San Francisco, Los Angeles, Chicago and Los Angeles all have a significant minority population of conservatives. Small rural towns in the South might be overwhelmingly conservative, but there are Democrats that live there and want to live there.
C.) Drawing lines on a map doesn't solve item B.
That was one of my main points in the op, I never hear liberals tell me where dems should compromise, it's only republicans who should. What specifically should democrats compromise on?
Dems compromised by allowing Bush to invade Iraq. That turned out well.
[quote=ChrisFromChicago;35261308]who are these fictional conservatives you speak of?
These are not the republicans, who grew the govt. in Arizona (via full control) faster than any Democratic or mixed legislature. These aren't those who worship Ronald R, who expanded govt and the military industrial complex. The republicans who tell us who we shouldn't marry, what drugs we should or shouldn't do, and what gods we should worship?
perhaps your inability to find common ground rests in the fiction of which you perceive the world.[/quote
Wow think you are speaking about this current President from your hometown, and deceitful administration.
Glad we found some common ground. Can't be a common ground because one side, is so damn bull headed, there is no reasoning with them. Seems to me this current administration tells us what to eat and not to eat, whether we like it or not. Seems to me we have a President who changes law to suit his own agenda, and nothing more.
And quite clear we have a President who don't know squat about a damn thing until the chit hits the fan.
1. Lived in Burbank for 9 years we always called in Cali or SoCal.
2. Why? Let's have socialist nations and constitutional conservative ones and see which ideology is more prosperous. What are you afraid of?
I have a friend who lived in Palmdale and referred to the entire state as LACA as LA basically set the tone for culture everywhere he went. He retired and went to FLA as fast as he could.
That was one of my main points in the op, I never hear liberals tell me where dems should compromise, it's only republicans who should. What specifically should democrats compromise on?
Democrats don't even negotiate. How about last year and the sequestor? Obama made it known he wouldn't negotiate, meaning compromise wasn't even an option.
Yep. conservattives are to negotiate and compromise until there is nothing left.
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I've never heard a Dem ask other Dems to do it, yet I've heard many "Republicans" say that they, or other Republicans, should.
