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View Poll Results: are both these laws constitutional (anti discrimination laws, and the 7 days a week law)?
both laws are unconstitutional 2 40.00%
both laws are constitutional 2 40.00%
anti discrimination laws are constitutional, and the 7 days a week law is unconstitutional (please explain your vote) 1 20.00%
anti discrimination laws are unconstitutional, and the 7 days a week law is constitutional (please explain your vote) 0 0%
Voters: 5. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-17-2014, 08:23 PM
 
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Is this hypothetical law constitutional? (I don't care if you think it's a terrible law, but only if it passes constitutional muster)

"Any stores that opens up has to stay open 7 days a week"



If you think this law is unconstitutional if it doesn't include religious exemptions, then you must also think Anti Discrimination laws that force people to violate their religion by participating in a same sex "wedding" (caterers, bakers, photographers, wedding hall owners etc.) to be unconstitutional.

anyone who think there should be a constitutional distinction between anti discrimination laws and seven days a week work laws please explain.



PS. The hypothetical law was passed because people were not able to get certain essential products on certain days of the week, and had to drive miles away

 
Old 06-17-2014, 08:27 PM
 
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Operating a business is neither a right nor is anyone forced to do so, so those laws are not unconstitutional.
 
Old 06-17-2014, 08:30 PM
 
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Operating a business is neither a right nor is anyone forced to do so, so those laws are not unconstitutional.
This. Too few conservatives who parade themselves as constitutional scholars have any clue what the hell they are talking about, and I bet the posts here and the poll will reflect that.
 
Old 06-17-2014, 08:32 PM
 
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Originally Posted by NY Jew View Post
Is this hypothetical law constitutional? (I don't care if you think it's a terrible law, but only if it passes constitutional muster)

"Any stores that opens up has to stay open 7 days a week"



If you think this law is unconstitutional if it doesn't include religious exemptions, then you must also think Anti Discrimination laws that force people to violate their religion by participating in a same sex "wedding" (caterers, bakers, photographers, wedding hall owners etc.) to be unconstitutional.

anyone who think there should be a constitutional distinction between anti discrimination laws and seven days a week work laws please explain.



PS. The hypothetical law was passed because people were not able to get certain essential products on certain days of the week, and had to drive miles away
Can you clarify where the Bible says thou shall not bake a cake to be used in a gay wedding? Must have missed that class of Sunday school.
 
Old 06-17-2014, 08:33 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Freedom and liberties have no laws.

Only humanity and the need to control others actions by intervention, does freedom and liberties get taken.
Some are given back as a privilege, for a fee, or get beat up and locked away. The bully tactic works until someone stands up to the bully.
 
Old 06-17-2014, 08:36 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Operating a business is neither a right nor is anyone forced to do so, so those laws are not unconstitutional.

Neither is life, liberty, or the pursuit of property.... *cough* I mean happiness.
Feeding one self is not a right. It must be fought and taken.
 
Old 06-17-2014, 08:36 PM
 
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Freedom and liberties have no laws.

Only humanity and the need to control others actions by intervention, does freedom and liberties get taken.
Some are given back as a privilege, for a fee, or get beat up and locked away. The bully tactic works until someone stands up to the bully.
Anarchy has no law. Move to a lawless country, and you will learn all about bullies.

Free societies are different. You have it backwards.
 
Old 06-17-2014, 08:37 PM
 
Location: NJ
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LOL! Municipalities employ lawyers who understand the limits of law, and work within those boundaries.
 
Old 06-17-2014, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Originally Posted by NY Jew View Post
Is this hypothetical law constitutional? (I don't care if you think it's a terrible law, but only if it passes constitutional muster)

"Any stores that opens up has to stay open 7 days a week"



If you think this law is unconstitutional if it doesn't include religious exemptions, then you must also think Anti Discrimination laws that force people to violate their religion by participating in a same sex "wedding" (caterers, bakers, photographers, wedding hall owners etc.) to be unconstitutional.

anyone who think there should be a constitutional distinction between anti discrimination laws and seven days a week work laws please explain.



PS. The hypothetical law was passed because people were not able to get certain essential products on certain days of the week, and had to drive miles away
A law requiring businesses open 7 days a week wouldn't allow businesses to selectively deny service to people because of owners' bigotry. Your analogy is utterly meaningless.
 
Old 06-17-2014, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The government shouldn't force a business to be closed any day of the week, nor should they force a business to stay open 7 days a week.
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