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Old 06-19-2014, 12:02 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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I really don't care for Al Gore, but read through some scientific journals and then post something. People regurgitate all kinds of absurd things in denying climate change, most of them from people with financial interests in maintaining the status quo as long as possible. Climate change is real and has real impacts. Ticks carrying lyme disease are now further north in places that never had them before. Insect pests of trees, like the hemlock woolly adelgid, are a problem in places that were too cold to have them before, leading to potentially serious losses. More droughts in some places and fires that accompany that. Not everyplace will be warmer, it's very complex given the complexities of our planet. It won't be a constant rise every year.
Both sides do the same thing, and often for the same reason, personal gain, either financial or their 15 minutes of fame. For Algore, it is both. By fanning the flames with regards to AGW, he both keeps his name in the spotlight...and drives the push for the "carbon trading" scheme set to make him a much richer man (his "carbon exchange") should carbon trading be mandated. I would find AGW proponents a lot more convincing if they weren't lining their pockets in one way or another.
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Old 06-19-2014, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Did you actually read that article? It doesn't support your position.
Did you? The article throws out 3 different theories as to why "global warming" has stopped. But it doesn't support or provide support for any one. Honestly, untested ideas, unsupported by data, are "hypotheses", not theories.
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Old 06-19-2014, 08:19 AM
 
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Release Gore's chakra!

Police Report on Al Gore Sex Case | Blogtown, PDX | Portland Mercury

BTW if you haven't read the police report, follow the link. It's as creepy as one might expect from Al Gore...
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Old 06-19-2014, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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Did you? The article throws out 3 different theories as to why "global warming" has stopped. But it doesn't support or provide support for any one. Honestly, untested ideas, unsupported by data, are "hypotheses", not theories.
And yet the same things appear in the Met Office report the denialist uses to prove . . . something.

Also, I'll note that I've shown about a half dozen times that a closer examination shows temperatures are still increasing. These facts go ignored because it contradicts Republican propaganda.


And who says these things are unsupported by data? Denialists? As if they're in a position to judge.
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Old 06-19-2014, 01:13 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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Did you? The article throws out 3 different theories as to why "global warming" has stopped. But it doesn't support or provide support for any one. Honestly, untested ideas, unsupported by data, are "hypotheses", not theories.
Yes I did. It presents different ideas on why the global average temperature did not go up. It doesn't support the position that global warming stopped several years ago, that the other poster was claiming. Global warming doesn't mean a constant rise every year, there will be ups and downs and flat spots, but the long term trend is the issue.
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