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Let's take the Obama rhetoric, from both sides, off the table and ask; Is it a good thing for the FBI to be opening an investigation?
I believe there should be some VA administrators brought up on negligent manslaughter charges.
Would anyone else agree with this?
Yes, absolutely. The only caveat I have is that we should wait for the results of the investigation to decide who should face charges. And I don't mean that we should accept a summary report, we need to see *all* the materials gathered during the investigation.
Actually when Obama first came into office I gave him the benefit of the doubt. I said ''Give him a chance'', I say this about all first time Presidents even if I don't vote for them. But this administration has been involved on so many scandals that I can't understandwhy ghe's still President and why some people still defend him or choose to try and laugh it all off.
Scandals to disqualify one from the office. Previous presidents have proven that.
The US will never see a president impeached and removed from office.
When Republican takes control of the Senate, in Jan. 2015, all the cards will be inplace to punt the fool and frog march his lame ass, right down Pennsylvania Ave.
Actually when Obama first came into office I gave him the benefit of the doubt. I said ''Give him a chance'', I say this about all first time Presidents even if I don't vote for them. But this administration has been involved on so many scandals that I can't understandwhy ghe's still President and why some people still defend him or choose to try and laugh it all off.
Because most people don't evaluate their lives based on media hype. We use...our lives. Since my life has improved, as well as everyone I know, we don't get worked up by every "scandal" that hits the airwaves. We're happy. You seem angry.
When Republican takes control of the Senate, in Jan. 2015, all the cards will be inplace to punt the fool and frog march his lame ass, right down Pennsylvania Ave.
We the people don't want our taxes wasted on such foollishness. That's MY money. Period!
Actually when Obama first came into office I gave him the benefit of the doubt. I said ''Give him a chance'', I say this about all first time Presidents even if I don't vote for them.
I said the exact same thing. I was jaded by the GOP and credit them for turning me to Constitutional Libertarianism. What made me a firm critic of Obama was how he promised to work on both sides of the aisle and then locked all of the Republicans out and spent over two years pushing through the ACA. When he proved himself to be the most arrogant partisan President in his first 2 years... that was enough for me.
The uniter became the divider fairly quickly, much to the delight of his cult following.
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Because most people don't evaluate their lives based on media hype. We use...our lives. Since my life has improved, as well as everyone I know, we don't get worked up by every "scandal" that hits the airwaves. We're happy. You seem angry.
Isn't that a let them eat cake attitude? Others are certainly suffering more, even though you and your circle are doing well. The unemployment rates are still some of the worst in history for certain demographics, such as youth and especially black youth. Up to 6 million middle class jobs have been exchanged for lower paying jobs, and this was confirmed by Joe Biden just last week. The USD has been diluted by the biggest injection of fiat currency in the history of man.
I'm glad you're happy, but at what cost?
Isn't this the same attitude, that I'd bet you frown on, the global warming deniers use? If it isn't affecting them, everything is good. It is the exact same thing, without a doubt.
I believe there should be some VA administrators brought up on negligent manslaughter charges.
Would anyone else agree with this?
If they're found guilty of negligence or worse? Of course. Who wouldn't? Except for the administrators involved, obviously.
And if it emerges that Obama personally directed everyone from Shinseki on down to falsify appointment data in order to make certain regional VA offices look good, then he should pay the price.
Originally Posted by steven_h I believe there should be some VA administrators brought up on negligent manslaughter charges.
Would anyone else agree with this?
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Originally Posted by pch1013
If they're found guilty of negligence or worse? Of course. Who wouldn't? Except for the administrators involved, obviously.
And if it emerges that Obama personally directed everyone from Shinseki on down to falsify appointment data in order to make certain regional VA offices look good, then he should pay the price.
You and I agree 100%, and that is exactly why we need to stop the right left rhetoric, the shotgun assumptions, the Obama is or isn't to blame derisions, and let the investigations unfold and play out.
I still believe there are more honest people in government than dishonest people. I believe they'll sort it out and roll the baddies.
We the people don't want our taxes wasted on such foollishness. That's MY money. Period!
It's my money too. Period!
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