Can't find a job? Gallup: Lose weight and get in shape! (drug, death)
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If employers are dumb enough to think smokers and overweight folks cost them more money than you probably don't wan't to work for a company that's so fundamentally wrong on such an issue anyway.
For the billionth time...smokers and overweight people on average die younger than their thinner/non-smoking peers. Time and time again it has been noted that end of life care/Alzheimer's is substantially more costly than an early death by pre-existing condition.
Sure, with medical advancement overweight folks /smokers will live longer but so will their healthy counterparts.
Bottom line: when an unemployed toned, healthy, non-smoker goes on a job interview odds are this potential employee will cost much more to the employer after they retire.
Having said all that...damn we live in an archaic, immoral country where this rubbish takes place.
Please stop injecting logic into the thread. You're going to hurt someone.
You're aware that healthier food costs more...right?
Calorie-wise, yes. Health-wise, no. Therein lies the rub. Obese people need to eat fewer calories, therefore they can spend the same amount of money to buy healthier lower calorie foods that won't make them obese.
See this USDA report:
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"For all metrics except the price of food energy [calories], the authors find that healthy foods cost less than less healthy foods"
This is cool. Let's see... I weigh 145 pounds right now. If I take that down to 135, I've developed a new skill set? Awesome. No avocados today.
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent
Depends on if you are obese at 145 pounds. What's your BMI?
So let's see... I'm taking notes... let's see if I'm getting this down properly...
The correlation... ummm... the correlation... okay, there is a correlation between BMI and job skills... Let's see... so if I lose 10 pounds while having a high body mass index (BMI), that embryonic job skill set just waiting to spontaneously pop out will be less likely to do so than if I shed those 10 pounds while having a low body mass index... the correlation then... uh... the correlation... so I... well, I... add the 5 and divide by... 9 is it? ... and then carry the 19... so x times... okay... and... uh, take the cosine of... yeah... right... uh-huh...
Yes, I think I have it now.
But wait a minute... what if I lose those 10 pounds and the skill set that develops is an outdated skill... say a watch repair person, or something? Is there any way to tell which skill will develop before losing the weight? I mean, really! You don't expect me to lose 10 pounds, only to be cheated by birthing a useless skill do you?
If employers are dumb enough to think smokers and overweight folks cost them more money than you probably don't wan't to work for a company that's so fundamentally wrong on such an issue anyway.
For the billionth time...smokers and overweight people on average die younger than their thinner/non-smoking peers. Time and time again it has been noted that end of life care/Alzheimer's is substantially more costly than an early death by pre-existing condition.
Sure, with medical advancement overweight folks /smokers will live longer but so will their healthy counterparts.
Bottom line: when an unemployed toned, healthy, non-smoker goes on a job interview odds are this potential employee will cost much more to the employer after they retire.
Having said all that...damn we live in an archaic, immoral country where this rubbish takes place.
...you do realize this is completely wrong, don't you? Employers don't contribute to health care costs of retirees (when costly end of life care is provided). We are talking about direct cost to employers, not macro level health care costs to a nation.
In terms of affecting monthly cash flow, smokers and obese people by far cost more to an employer.
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Originally Posted by No_Recess
You're aware that healthier food costs more...right?
(Crossing fingers in hope)
...no it doesn't...cooking healthy from scratch is cheaper than eating pre-packaged or take out.
So let's see... I'm taking notes... let's see if I'm getting this down properly...
The correlation... ummm... the correlation... okay, there is a correlation between BMI and job skills... Let's see... so if I lose 10 pounds while having a high body mass index (BMI), that embryonic job skill set just waiting to spontaneously pop out will be less likely to do so than if I shed those 10 pounds while having a low body mass index... the correlation then... uh... the correlation... so I... well, I... add the 5 and divide by... 9 is it? ... and then carry the 19... so x times... okay... and... uh, take the cosine of... yeah... right... uh-huh...
Yes, I think I have it now.
No, you don't. Not being obese implies one already has keen discernment and sound decision-making skills which have prevented one from becoming obese.
Why are you getting so upset about people who have little to no self-control not being able to get jobs? And why does the fact that they can't surprise anyone? Who's going to hire someone who makes bad decisions regarding even their very existence?
Why are you getting so upset about people who have little to no self-control not being able to get jobs? And why does the fact that they can't surprise anyone? Who's going to hire someone who makes bad decisions regarding even their very existence?
I'm not at all upset. You seem a bit edgy, though. Honestly, how big or small a person is makes no difference to me at all, with one exception: myself. And since I do have that all important "low BMI," I suppose I have nothing to be upset about.
But... I will stand by my (implied) contradiction of your statement that losing weight with a low BMI is more likely to spawn a job skill than losing the weight with a high BMI. I'd like to see some verifiable research on this.
Then why did you post your irrelevant rant? The one that showed you have no idea what being obese implies about those who have let themselves become so?
You may have a different opinion, but you're in the minority on that. Gallup's findings contradict your beliefs.
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Those who earn the least have the highest obesity rate. 
