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Old 06-19-2014, 09:42 AM
 
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We kinda had that whole "freedom and democracy" thing going on in our domestic and foreign policy for the last few hundred years or so. You're suggesting that we now follow in the steps of dictators like Hitler and Stalin... are you crazy?
Hitler and Stalin committed crimes against humanity. No where have I advocated such.
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Old 06-19-2014, 09:45 AM
 
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All meddling over there is a bad plan! It sucks to be them, but if they haven't figured out over there how to be free in the past couple of thousand of years, then they aren't going to now! I'm concerned about OUR country, its citizens, and that our freedoms and liberties are being further erroded courtsey of BS like the Patriot ACT, under the guise of a "war on terrah!" Oh... and let's not forget the failed "war on drugs" in which our government plays both sides of the coin.
Westerners created the problem with the formation of fake countries and fictitious borders. The least we can do is help and fix that which we created.
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Old 06-19-2014, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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many many thousands are already dead from our actions, creating hatred towards us for generations to come.
Exactly-the absolute best thing we can do now is leave the area and never return.

Hypocrites like the OP like to cry about Saddam using chemical weapons but forget that our rogue shadow Government sanctioned it.

Rumsfeld 'helped Iraq get chemical weapons' | Mail Online

History lesson: When the United States looked the other way on chemical weapons - The Washington Post

Exclusive: CIA Files Prove America Helped Saddam as He Gassed Iran

How the U.S. helped Saddam Hussein use chemical weapons against Iran - The Week

How Reagan Armed Saddam with Chemical Weapons » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names

http://rt.com/news/chemical-weapons-iran-iraq-980/



We have allowed Global Banks and Multi-National Corporations to rape and pillage the region under the guise of "terrorism". It must stop.
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Old 06-19-2014, 09:51 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Nothing to do with "disagreeing"

Has everything to do with respecting inherent human rights.

Why are you not lobbying for us to return to/plus-up in one of the many countries in Africa, then? There are lots worse human atrocities happening all over that continent than anything going on in the ME.
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Old 06-19-2014, 09:58 AM
 
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Why are you not lobbying for us to return to/plus-up in one of the many countries in Africa, then? There are lots worse human atrocities happening all over that continent than anything going on in the ME.
I am for that as well. Rome wasnt built in a day. ME seems like a more pressing matter imo.
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Old 06-19-2014, 10:25 AM
 
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Exactly-the absolute best thing we can do now is leave the area and never return.

Hypocrites like the OP like to cry about Saddam using chemical weapons but forget that our rogue shadow Government sanctioned it.

Rumsfeld 'helped Iraq get chemical weapons' | Mail Online

History lesson: When the United States looked the other way on chemical weapons - The Washington Post

Exclusive: CIA Files Prove America Helped Saddam as He Gassed Iran

How the U.S. helped Saddam Hussein use chemical weapons against Iran - The Week

How Reagan Armed Saddam with Chemical Weapons » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names

US gave Saddam blessing to use toxins against Iranians ? RT News



We have allowed Global Banks and Multi-National Corporations to rape and pillage the region under the guise of "terrorism". It must stop.
Giving them weapons does not mean sanctioning them for the use on innocent civilians.

Get real
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Old 06-19-2014, 10:27 AM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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It is time we come to this realization. Iraq in it's present form is incapable of governing and bringing stability to it's country.

The US needs to take over the country and run it for them until they are capable and ready to behave like civil human beings.

We can split the oil profits for bringing some stability to the country.

It would be a win win for both parties.
We haven't received any oil from that cesspool country yet after 12 years there. What makes you think that we'll get any from them in the future with your scheme? Bumbling Bush promised us that the oil would mitigate the costs of conducting the democratization process. It hasn't worked. Iraq is too savage of a country by first world standards. Let em kill themselves.
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Old 06-19-2014, 10:30 AM
 
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We haven't received any oil from that cesspool country yet after 12 years there. What makes you think that we'll get any from them in the future with your scheme? Bumbling Bush promised us that the oil would mitigate the costs of conducting the democratization process. It hasn't worked. Iraq is too savage of a country by first world standards. Let em kill themselves.
Do you understand what running / taking over a country means? It is different than removing dictator and setting up local government.
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Old 06-19-2014, 10:31 AM
 
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OP look at this country. Yes at one time we could but we are now polar opposites. One group wants big government to take care of them,the other group are tired of being raped by government. Look at how the IRS was used to silence the tea party. This is the stuff of the beginning of a uber powerful elite and a citizenry of poverty at their mercy.
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Old 06-19-2014, 10:37 AM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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Can't rep you enough!!!!
Hey- are you all still upset with Lebron? I can't stand the guy. Go Spurs Go!!!
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