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Old 06-19-2014, 02:43 PM
 
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Apparently, he has all this information.
He found records in Iraq!
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Old 06-19-2014, 02:44 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Yeah...no where near the impact...they just tried to take down the World's 2 tallest buildings & partially succeeded.
Yeah, NO WHERE NEAR the impact.
"Trying" doesn't count.


Ken
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Old 06-19-2014, 02:45 PM
 
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Yes and that was verified by a number of people who Bush and Cheney chose to ignore, the reason being that was not the real reason they wanted to invade Iraq in the first place. They just started looking for excuses to invade. WMDs, 9/11--whatever they could get the public to swallow. The Iraq invasion was planned from the day Bush/Cheney were elected.
imo The whole thing was planned long before the election.
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Old 06-19-2014, 02:46 PM
 
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There's nothing to "re-litigate."

The Iraq War was won when Obama took office. All he had to do was negotiate the status of forces agreement. Even that was too difficult for the little buffoon to manage.

Now he has singlehandedly lost the war, throwing Iraq into chaos and creating a massive training ground for terrorist insurgents.

Of course, it's not so much Obama's fault as the clueless electorate who voted for him twice.
I love this new meme by the right that Iraq was all hunky-dory when Bush left office. Everything was wonderful there on January 19, 2009. Really, Iraq was a vacation spot in the Middle East. Someone on Fox, or maybe it was Rush, has forged these new talking points and every Conservative is now running with them.

Hilarious. You guys may be able to sell that to the low information idiots who vote GOP, but the rest of us have memories longer than that of a goldfish. Iraq was destroyed the day that Bush/Cheney invaded it, and there is no fixing it now. The mythology that the war was ever "won" is rightwing history-rewriting crap.
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Old 06-19-2014, 02:47 PM
 
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Whether or not Saddam had WMDs is irrelevant. Was he a threat to anyone with them? The answer is no, and that is the reason we wasted trillions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of people are dead.
It's basically irrelevant to the reasons Congress passed the Iraqi War Resolution. There were many, many, many good reasons for invading Iraq other than WMDs.

I'm convinced that most of the people commenting on this topic have never read the Iraqi War Resolution. I'm also convinced that they know very little about the topic except the propaganda and talking points the left has repeated ad nauseum ever since 2006, when Democrats started using the deaths of military personnel as political tools.

For example, the USAF was enforcing a UN-sponsored "No Fly Zone" prior to the war. Our pilots were routinely fired upon by Iraqi AA units on the ground. That ALONE was adequate justification for war because it was an act of war in and of itself.

Of course, most of the liberals bloviating about this topic never spent a single day in uniform and don't have the first clue about things like war and the military.
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Old 06-19-2014, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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The 93 attack wasn't nearly on the same level as 9/11. Regardless, fact of the matter is Clinton left office with approvals in the 60's, Bush left office with approvals in the 20's.
You can cherry pick numbers all day long.

GWB averaged 49.4% both terms which proves we are still a highly divided nation.

By comparison, Obama is barely hovering above a 40% average for BOTH his terms...& its not over till the fat lady sings. Way to go Barry! *golf claps*

http://time.com/2893687/obama-foreig...-nbc-wsj-poll/
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Old 06-19-2014, 02:49 PM
 
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I love this new meme by the right that Iraq was all hunky-dory when Bush left office. Everything was wonderful there on January 19, 2009. Really, Iraq was a vacation spot in the Middle East. Someone on Fox, or maybe it was Rush, has forged these new talking points and every Conservative is now running with them.

Hilarious. You guys may be able to sell that to the low information idiots who vote GOP, but the rest of us have memories longer than that of a goldfish. Iraq was destroyed the day that Bush/Cheney invaded it, and there is no fixing it now. The mythology that the war was ever "won" is rightwing history-rewriting crap.
I think you and Rambler123 are turning the tide around here. So much truth and logic being ignored by so called conservatives that think they are better than anyone but a republican.
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Old 06-19-2014, 02:49 PM
 
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I love this new meme by the right that Iraq was all hunky-dory when Bush left office. Everything was wonderful there on January 19, 2009. Really, Iraq was a vacation spot in the Middle East. Someone on Fox, or maybe it was Rush, has forged these new talking points and every Conservative is now running with them.

Hilarious. You guys may be able to sell that to the low information idiots who vote GOP, but the rest of us have memories longer than that of a goldfish. Iraq was destroyed the day that Bush/Cheney invaded it, and there is no fixing it now. The mythology that the war was ever "won" is rightwing history-rewriting crap.
Well, Bush didn't leave Obama with an army of marauding terrorists who controlled a third of the country and the biggest oil field.

Unfortunately for you, the pathetic attempt to rewrite history in your failed President's favor just isn't going to work.

Bush left Obama with a stable Iraq. Obama effed it up in every way imaginable. Americans will die as a result. That blood will be on his hands and the hands of the people who voted for him twice.
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Old 06-19-2014, 02:52 PM
 
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Well, Bush didn't leave Obama with an army of marauding terrorists who controlled a third of the country and the biggest oil field.

Unfortunately for you, the pathetic attempt to rewrite history in your failed President's favor just isn't going to work.

Bush left Obama with a stable Iraq. Obama effed it up in every way imaginable. Americans will die as a result. That blood will be on his hands and the hands of the people who voted for him twice.

If Iraq was stable, then they didn't need us there.
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Old 06-19-2014, 02:53 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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He found records in Iraq!
The reports conclusion are spelled out pretty clearly starting about page 52.
It's not ambiguous. NO WMD's - PERIOD.
They had LONG since been destroyed.

http://www.intelligence.senate.gov/phaseiiaccuracy.pdf

Ken
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