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That was the Presbyterian Church USA. There is also the Evangelical Presbyterian Church. Two different Presbyterian Church groups. So you can't assume every Presbyterian church in town is USA.
I am a member of a Presbyterian USA congregation. I know how to tell the difference.
Israel is the only democracy in that region and the only place homosexuals, women, Muslims, and, yes, Christians can live without fear of reprisals for their beliefs. How myopic and stupid this church group is. If they chose to visit Israel's surrounding neighbors they wouldn't want to reveal they were Christians unless they had a death wish.
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Where would that be? Seriously, not being sarcastic. Presby, USA and American, are very mainline denominations. I have a Presbyterian Church USA down the street from me which is gigantic, though not in comparison to the mega churches out in the suburbs. Presbyterian, Methodist, and Episcopal are big in my area.
I'm Presbyterian and my church is around 1500 or more members. Most aren't that big though.
The Presbyterian Church is not a true church, they have forsaken God's Laws in favor of the temporary influence of Man's by supporting gay marriage. Now they turn their backs on Israel and the Jews? The very people who wrote The Bible and God sent Jesus through? Just another nail in their coffin. The Presbyterians are one of the fastest collapsing churches in the nation, their attendance is at an all time low and it's decreasing rapidly every day.
This is what happens when you don't follow God, following Man may make you more popular among the secular world, but those people never had any intention of going to church to begin with, or God for that matter. This church bears no fruit, they have chosen to burn their own garden that God intended for them to grow.
lol! I wasn't aware you were appointed by God to determine which churces are true and which aren't.
I'm sure there is also a place in Hell that is the only "blah blah" there, but why would you live in such a region when others-including this very country founded on the basis of religious freedom-are available?
It is 2014 and it's time for societies more advanced to leave behind those fighting over organized religion.
OP's sensationalistic headline doesn't match the article. Seven pages in and it seems that not one person bothered to read the link. Another day on CD...
The Presbyterians are not "divesting from Israel." They are pulling investments from THREE American companies that they feel have aided with the taking of Palestinian land in the occupied territories.
.... why would you live in such a region when others-including this very country founded on the basis of religious freedom-are available?
If you knew and understood history of the Jewish people you would know the answer to that question, 2e. I hope you will research some of the facts on your own, however.
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The Presbyterian Church is not a true church, they have forsaken God's Laws in favor of the temporary influence of Man's by supporting gay marriage. Now they turn their backs on Israel and the Jews? The very people who wrote The Bible and God sent Jesus through? Just another nail in their coffin. The Presbyterians are one of the fastest collapsing churches in the nation, their attendance is at an all time low and it's decreasing rapidly every day.
Since you choose to play the Jesus card, please tell us exactly WHERE in the Bible Jesus addresses the issue of homosexuality? While you're at it you may as well tell us just WHO appointed you as the arbiter of what constitutes a 'true' church vs. a false church? And why a book written by Jews claiming Jews are 'The Chosen' should be believed by non-Jews?
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This is what happens when you don't follow God, following Man may make you more popular among the secular world, but those people never had any intention of going to church to begin with, or God for that matter. This church bears no fruit, they have chosen to burn their own garden that God intended for them to grow.
And you have determined the intentions of others HOW?
The Presbyterian Church (USA) has decided to join the BDS Movement (boycott/divestment/sanctions), and boycott Israeli products. Who cares?
The BDS movement is an example of mindless political grandstanding, with virtually no negative repercussions for the state and people of Israel. Of all the things Israelis may stay up contemplating, BDS is not one of them.
I do feel sorry about the upcoming demise of the Presbyterians, though; they had seemed to be a decent enough sort, you know, if you just kind of gloss over the Jew-hating streak.
Let me explain what will happen here. It is virtually impossible to live without Israeli technology. Even the Amish, a determined and non-technologically oriented bunch, couldn't manage it, and don’t claim to want to, as they believe in modern medical technology.
So here’s some things the Presbyterians are going to have to learn to live without.
Computers and phones, for starters. All Intel Pentium and Celeron chips, the Ivy bridge processor, and Microsoft operating systems–gone. Apple–no bites for you. Should you somehow cobble together a computer out of paper clips and gum, you will no longer be able to use a firewall, so enjoy your five minutes of surfing before viruses crash your system. But in the few minutes before the crash? Facebook and its add-ons? No. Google? Still nope. Yahoo? Out of luck. Hotmail? Notmail for you. And you can’t save your stuff, because USBs–uh-huh. Email in general? Sorry, the algorithm that allows you to send emails was also invented by an Israeli. The technology for mobile phones is also completely Jewed-up by Israeli inventors. SMS and 4G–guess who? Voice mail, even on your land-line–yup, shalom again. Want to print this out so you can savor the good old days when you had Web access–not so fast, you may be using Israeli ink-saving printer devices. It’s OK though, I hear quill pens are trending.
Feeling restless? Feel free to pollute the planet with vintage gas guzzlers, but kiss your electric cars goodbye, along with any regular cars with onboard computing. (Hint–that’s pretty much all of them.) Most public transportation is out as well. Flying? That’s probably not going to work out for you. Maybe this will comfort you when you can no longer use your GPS either.
Well, at least you can stay home and relax, even if you can no longer communicate with others. How about a little TV? Oh, video on demand is gone now too. Relax with a good e-book? Nice thought, but no. Movies? Heh-heh. Remember who runs Hollywood?
Maybe something tasty to ease the pain? No more cherry tomatoes, they were developed in Israel. Coke and a smile? Time to frown. Coke is heavily invested in Israel, as is Little Debbie, so step away from the snack cakes. How about a spoonful of honey? Not after Israel’s work against bee colony collapse. A lot of fruit from South America is marketed by Israeli brands, so that’s out, as are food products from many countries in Africa, as well as from China, India, Indonesia, the UK, and numerous other places that use Israeli irrigation and agricultural technology. That’s OK, you can till the earth with your own bare hands with all the free time you have now that you’ve given up on phones, the internet, TV, and movies. But what are you going to eat until your harvest comes in? Hmm. Sticky one. Don’t try to tide yourself over with matzoh, just a thought. And don’t even think of trading any stray diamonds you have lying around for a pot of gruel or something. You know where I’m going with this one.
You could use a fuzzy sweater for comfort? But then there’s the garment trade. Oh wait, surprise, who do we find there? Have fun with the hand-sewing. Time to invest in a loom.
While you’re at it, it’s really time to get your prayer on, because if you get sick, it’s all over. You’re basically living in the nineteenth century now, you self-sufficient BDSers. And what was the life expectancy back then? Not good, Presbyterians, not good. Meanwhile, who are you praying to? The God of the Old Testament? You might want to avoid mentioning that you’re boycotting His chosen people. How about Jesus the Jew? Oops. By the way, if someone decides to smite you by having the ground swallow you up whole, remember you won’t have your earthquake warning alert anymore either.
What currently is on your boycott list, however, are a whopping amount of drugs and devices for problems such as: Alzheimer’s, arteriosclerosis, asthma, bone marrow transplants, brain tumors, cancer, catheters, collagen, dental scanners, diabetes, dyslexia, glaucoma, head trauma, heart disease, heart pulse generators, heart stents, HIV, kidney transplants, malaria prevention, multiple sclerosis, non-steroid allergy creams, Parkinson’s, Pillcams, pneumococcus, sleep apnea, spinal implants, stem cell research, stroke, soy based medicines, Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, surgical lasers, West NiIe, the newer non-bacteria-resistant antibiotics, many vaccines, and the only radiation risk-free X-ray machines. Enjoy the hair everywhere too, because if you get the slightest shaving nick you’re clearly going to die, and the epilator’s out.
Meanwhile, how’s life back in your cozy home? Bit dim there? A tad chilly? Well, your smart thermostat’s no longer working. And you know what happened to the blackout prevention systems for your electricity. The fate of your solar power backup should be clear too. All gone, but you’ll barely notice at this point, as your mind swims in the noxious fog of all the untreated sewage around you. Glad to hear you’re enjoying your out-house and staggering barefoot to the nearest untreated water source. Half-naked, shivering and squinting by candlelight as you knit with dirty wool, your body shakes with a wracking cough, your insides snarl with cholera, and the malnutrition eats away at your bones, while you dream of all the music you can’t even sadly hum to yourself as it was made with Israeli technology or by people who support the state of Israel. There may be sympathy for the Devil, although there’s none in your future. But stand by those principles. Good for you! Since you also had to kiss your credit cards and the fraud prevention on your bank accounts good-bye, it’s just as well that you’ve abandoned Israeli technology, as you’re now dead broke and can’t afford it. Just remember somewhere there’s clean and well-dressed Israelis with plates full of fresh food and good glasses of wine, chatting with nice people from all over the world and checking the market and the latest entertainment on their phones, while their expert doctors invent the next-life-saving devices just for them. Coming soon, Israeli flying fold-up cars, you’re really going to hate missing out on those. The Israelis have already turned jellyfish into diapers. Jellyfish swaddled babies? Who does that? Come on, you know you want it. Not for you though. You’re wiping your babies with straw.
As for the grateful people who might be at those Israelis’ tables: Israel has sent humanitarian aid or rescue teams to countries including Angola, Cameroon, Chad, Chile, China, Colombia, the Congo, El Salvador, Georgia, Ghana, Guatemala, Haiti, Honduras, India, Japan, Kenya, Malawi, the Maldives, Mexico, Mississippi (the U.S.), Mozambique, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Nigeria, Pakistan, Peru, the Philippines, Romania, Rwanda, South Africa, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Turkey, Uganda, Venezuela, and Vietnam.
Since you can no longer visit these places, call them, or read about them in anything but your local library’s…whoops, you can’t check out books either. Pesky computers. Ink again too. Maybe if you’re lucky a friend of yours will crush some berries, pluck a goose, hand-copy this out for you on a scrap of bark, and strap it to a pigeon. Watch out for bird flu, cause, you know…
Oh, and what about the results of your heroic sacrifice in the name of Antisemitism? What did the BDS movement actually accomplish? Well, perhaps a few Israeli date farmers lost half a percentage point on their sales, at which point they were bailed out by an Israeli tech company or venture capital fund looking for a tax write-off. The alarming die-off of all the Presbyterians scared the rest of the lying BDS hypocrites right back into the arms of Israeli technology, which the rest of the world had never dreamed of abandoning, and the Israelis still got paid. But as for you, the true believer, the biased and BDS-practicing, last of the Presbyterians, well, enjoy the darkness.
Eh, doubt this would have an impact, and if it did enough to make a company underpriced I and everyone else hungry for half-decent ratios in the current overpriced environment would pile in.
It's one of those things that expresses a political viewpoint but doesn't actually matter, passive investment is too fungible.
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