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Old 06-23-2014, 10:01 AM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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Supreme Court ruling? Obama doesn't care about any Supreme Court rulings. He is above all of that.
Same for Holder.

And apparently the IRS.
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Old 06-23-2014, 10:06 AM
 
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Why did Earth

By the way, the surface has still been warming, just less. And that doesn't mean the Earth as a whole isn't warming.
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Old 06-23-2014, 12:45 PM
 
Location: NC
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It is funny the headlines that come out of this ruling, yet none tell the facts. Basically the Supreme Court said the EPA doesn't have the authority to raise its authority on emitters from 83% to 86% (yes 3% is what the argument was over) without Congressional approval; EPA can still regulate 83% of all emitters because they emit other pollutants already.

All your powerplants, industrial sites, and transportation based carbon emitters can be (and most likely will be) regulated still. This doesn't mean industry won't stop suing over the matter though.
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Old 06-23-2014, 02:29 PM
 
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Ah, activist judges when they make decisions people don't like...common sense when they make decisions people agree with.

I get it now...
Are you talking about Roe vs. Wade?
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Old 06-23-2014, 04:33 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Ah, activist judges when they make decisions people don't like...common sense when they make decisions people agree with.

I get it now...


that is as bad as unelected EPA bureaucrats making law. something that those same jerks are not allowed to do. only congress is allowed to make law on a national scale.
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Old 06-23-2014, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Like when the Supreme Court ruled on Citizens United?
False, they got that one wrong.
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Old 06-23-2014, 04:39 PM
 
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It is funny the headlines that come out of this ruling, yet none tell the facts. Basically the Supreme Court said the EPA doesn't have the authority to raise its authority on emitters from 83% to 86% (yes 3% is what the argument was over) without Congressional approval; EPA can still regulate 83% of all emitters because they emit other pollutants already.

All your powerplants, industrial sites, and transportation based carbon emitters can be (and most likely will be) regulated still. This doesn't mean industry won't stop suing over the matter though.
This is correct. It was more of victory for the EPA than a loss. The OP got the headline for this thread from the Fox News website. Is it therefore any wonder why this headline is misleading?
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Old 06-23-2014, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Rather funny the differences in reporting the supreme court ruling, even Justice Scalia stated it was a victory for the EPA.“EPA is getting almost everything it wanted in this case,” Justice Antonin Scalia. But then there is the Fox News Spin.

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The Supreme Court on Monday mostly validated the Environmental Protection
Agency’s plans to regulate power plant and factory emissions of greenhouse gases
blamed for global warming while imposing some limits on the agency’s reach.

The justices said the EPA could not rewrite specific standards written into
the law, but they still handed the Obama administration and environmentalists a
big victory by agreeing there was another way for the EPA to carry out its
program.

Supreme Court: EPA can regulate greenhouse gas emissions, with some limits - The Washington Post
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Old 06-23-2014, 04:54 PM
 
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Why would this be a good thing?

Seriously, I need a conservative to explain how restricting our effect on climate change is bad. Enlighten us.
The climate is going to change regardless of what us mere humans do.

Get a clue.
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Old 06-23-2014, 04:56 PM
 
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Why did Earth

By the way, the surface has still been warming, just less. And that doesn't mean the Earth as a whole isn't warming.
Actually its been cooling since 1933.
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